Constellation 163.001 on ebay

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aprax

·Jan 19, 2020

This is a fairly unusual ultra thin model with cal. 712.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Armbanduhr-...cially-Certified-163-001-Herren/264593774525?
I think that this version should have a second hand and that it is missing. The seller wouldn't send me a close-up pic of the dial center. What do you experts think?

 

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dx009

·Jan 19, 2020

Yes it should have a seconds hand. I can see the pivot where the seconds hand goes into but I can't tell whether it's a bit short or not.

EDIT: Looking at the 2nd photo it seems a bit short, honestly... It should stick out more. Not 100% certain.

Edited: Jan 19, 2020

 

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aprax

·Jan 19, 2020

Phew, I thought so too. It has still about 20min to go...

 

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OMEGuy

·Jan 19, 2020

You might find further information here:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/constellation-cal-712-super-thin.79596/

And here is a picture of the watch with its second hand:

 

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aprax

·Jan 19, 2020

OMEGuy

You might find further information here:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/constellation-cal-712-super-thin.79596/

Thanks. I was wondering if this was a variant without seconds hand. The cal. 712 was often used as a two-hander though it has a central seconds capability. But from the pics I thought there was a pivot there, as dx009 noticed.

 

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Walrus

·Jan 19, 2020

Too bad, how much did somebody pay for a watch missing a second hand I see it’s gone

 

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janice&fred

·Jan 19, 2020

Walrus

Too bad, how much did somebody pay for a watch missing a second hand I see it’s gone

in the weekend flea markets in NYC there would often be a few old omegas missing the second hand and found that usually there is a reason why the second hand isn't mounted and it's due to a bad wheel.

 

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dx009

·Jan 19, 2020

The missing seconds hand is nothing. Easy to install and probably not hard to find (nor expensive).

 

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aprax

·Jan 19, 2020

dx009

The missing seconds hand is nothing. Easy to install and probably not hard to find (nor expensive).

Easy to install, certainly. Easy to find, I don't know. But I would not buy a watch in that state for the reason Fred (?) stated above. And no movement pics.