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Centenary 2500 JUB Serial Numbers
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cicindela
··Steve @ ΩFYou be the judge
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pitpro
·Right-ho, here is the updated table as of 0.900 GMT this morning. I have added a column for case material, but it is only populated for rose gold, otherwise YG is assumed.
I would be interested in any comments from you all, of course. We now have a sample of 27, which is still tiny but allows us to speculate. It does indeed begin to look as if there was a late batch of RG examples, which do group more or less together so far. Does anyone know if the Doug Gravina example (10785584) is RG? I can't really be sure from the photos. The very few Certificate numbers we have so far seem to have no sequence at all 😕 Perhaps the certificates were sent to the testing labs en-masse, and the lab just pulled them out at random to fill in for the movement they had on the bench at the time.
What happened to this one?
And yes the Gravina example looks Rose to me-
This is the pic my opinion is based on
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cicindela
··Steve @ ΩFThere should perhaps be a column for engraved back, when known.
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John R Smith
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The seller would not post me a photo of the inside of the back, or provide the case number. Seems odd, but there you go. One of you blokes will have to buy the watch 😀 (don't look at me, I'm on a pension . . . )
There should perhaps be a column for engraved back, when known.
Well, we've only got one engraved back, so far. I have added it to the comments column as "EB" for now. And I have made the Doug Gravina (10785584) RG in the table.
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John R Smith
·Here you go, table update -
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pitpro
·The very few Certificate numbers we have so far seem to have no sequence at all 😕 Perhaps the certificates were sent to the testing labs en-masse, and the lab just pulled them out at random to fill in for the movement they had on the bench at the time.
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorPerhaps the certificates were sent to the testing labs en-masse, and the lab just pulled them out at random to fill in for the movement they had on the bench at the time.
I believe that Omega did their own chronometer testing until about 1951, when a change in Swiss law required the manufacturers to use outside testing agencies.
Here is a thread (the author of the top post should be familiar to most of you), that discusses this relative to the Centenary models.
http://omega.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpostf&fi=677&pi=5624973&ti=832198&s=0
This information should be highly relevant here as well.
gatorcpa
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pitpro
·Here's another:
18KT ROSE GOLD, CASE # 10785645 2500, CALIBER JUB 30.10, RA RC, SERIAL # 10,761,445
It's got the Centenary engraving
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6921497
18KT ROSE GOLD, CASE # 10785645 2500, CALIBER JUB 30.10, RA RC, SERIAL # 10,761,445
It's got the Centenary engraving
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6921497
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorA few more from around the net:
This one has the most detailed picture of the movement, but no mention of the case number. You may be able to e-mail the author:
http://ninanet.net/watches/others07/Mediums/momegas.html
One that was sold and the pics were taken down. Has both the movement and case numbers:
http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=2867640&rid=0
Another one that was sold and has both numbers:
http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=5437554&rid=0
One shown in another forum, pictures aren't too good, but there is a narrative:
http://omega.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpostf&fi=677&pi=3620456&ti=581981&s=0
http://omega.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpostf&fi=677&pi=3817821&ti=609281&s=0
Another one from that forum:
http://omega.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpostf&fi=677&pi=2387146&ti=399681&s=0
I think the movement is 10,760,600 and case is 10,784,090?
A completed eBay auction. Good pictures of a bad redial, engraved also:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-OMEGA-CENTENARY-18K-CASE-/230627044379?
Time for another update?
gatorcpa
This one has the most detailed picture of the movement, but no mention of the case number. You may be able to e-mail the author:
http://ninanet.net/watches/others07/Mediums/momegas.html
One that was sold and the pics were taken down. Has both the movement and case numbers:
http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=2867640&rid=0
Another one that was sold and has both numbers:
http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=5437554&rid=0
One shown in another forum, pictures aren't too good, but there is a narrative:
http://omega.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpostf&fi=677&pi=3620456&ti=581981&s=0
http://omega.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpostf&fi=677&pi=3817821&ti=609281&s=0
Another one from that forum:
http://omega.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpostf&fi=677&pi=2387146&ti=399681&s=0
I think the movement is 10,760,600 and case is 10,784,090?
A completed eBay auction. Good pictures of a bad redial, engraved also:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-OMEGA-CENTENARY-18K-CASE-/230627044379?
Time for another update?
gatorcpa
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John R Smith
·Thank you both for the detective work! The updated table is here, with the new entries highlighted in yellow -
The rose gold cases are still staying together in a nice batch (I think pitpro's watch may be the start of a second batch). And it looks as if the ones destined for the North American market might have had the "2500" case reference before any others. But the engraved backs are just scatter-gunned, with no obvious logic at all, except that we could say that they seem to be later rather than earlier. Which does not make any sense, because you would imagine that once you had started engraving the back that all subsequent cases would then have been engraved also. It does explain why the engraved examples are so rare, though.
The rose gold cases are still staying together in a nice batch (I think pitpro's watch may be the start of a second batch). And it looks as if the ones destined for the North American market might have had the "2500" case reference before any others. But the engraved backs are just scatter-gunned, with no obvious logic at all, except that we could say that they seem to be later rather than earlier. Which does not make any sense, because you would imagine that once you had started engraving the back that all subsequent cases would then have been engraved also. It does explain why the engraved examples are so rare, though.
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John R Smith
·It looks like we have run out of examples, for the moment anyway. Despite the very small sample, I think that the table is still quite useful to give an idea of where a particular 2500 fits within the sequence. As new watches come on the market, I will keep an eye out for them and add them to the table. Here, for now, is the final version with engraved back (EB) given its own column
Now I must get back to the search for my very own Centenary!
Now I must get back to the search for my very own Centenary!
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Privateday7
·It looks like we have run out of examples, for the moment anyway. Despite the very small sample, I think that the table is still quite useful to give an idea of where a particular 2500 fits within the sequence. As new watches come on the market, I will keep an eye out for them and add them to the table. Here, for now, is the final version with engraved back (EB) given its own column
Now I must get back to the search for my very own Centenary!
Interesting that all Engraved Back Centenaries are fall within 1078XXX case number and 1075XXX & 1076XXX movt number
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John R Smith
·Interesting that all Engraved Back Centenaries are fall within 1078XXX case number and 1075XXX & 1076XXX movt number
Yes, in general the engraved backs seem to be later rather than earlier, but that is probably as much as we can say. What you can definitely say is that they are quite scarce. The real shame is that most watches got separated from their chronometer certificates, so we have no idea how those edition numbers went.
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Privateday7
·Here is mine. I bought it from US. No engraved case back. Yellow Gold. Caseback number 10784912 and Movement number 10760572.
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John R Smith
·Aha, Pday7, I was hoping we might get your personal Centenary! I will add it to our table - that is actually a very nice example.
Thanks very much for posting 👍
Thanks very much for posting 👍
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LouS
··Mrs Nataf's Other Sonthis is turning into a landmark reference thread☕
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Privateday7
·Aha, Pday7, I was hoping we might get your personal Centenary! I will add it to our table - that is actually a very nice example.
Thanks very much for posting 👍
You are very welcome. Thank you for developing Centenary reference. Certainly many centenary hunters in the future will revisit this thread for their reference. 👍
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UncleBuck
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