John R Smith
路As some of you may know, I have been trying to find a nice Centenary 2500 for several months now. With little success, I may add, every time I locate a decent example it just seems to slip through my fingers . . . I'm sure you know the feeling 馃檨 I'm still hoping to find my personal grail, but I must admit my patience is wearing thin.
It's not helped by there being only 4,000 pieces in the original 2500 production run, so these are perhaps not rare, but certainly scarce. Anyhow, to help me determine the authenticity of a particular example I have passed the time by constructing a little table of Centenary 2500 serial numbers. I don't know, somebody may already have done this to greater effect than me, if so please tell me (and even better give me a link to it). I was helped in this endeavour by the fact that Omega were still using case serial numbers in 1948, so each watch has a case number and a movement number. My sample is very small, just 17 (out of 4,000!) but I got these quite quickly by searching just this forum and past eBay listings. Several of you will find your own Centenary here, but I have not identified names for obvious reasons, just the last known country of origin (well, I did identify the King of Denmark, but I don't suppose he will mind as he is dead).
What I found quite quickly is that there was no batch of case numbers allocated specifically to the 2500, although all the cases I have seen so far were made by the same maker (key symbol with the number 4 in it). Equally, there was no specific batch of movement numbers assigned to the 30.10 JUB, they are spread over a much wider range than 4,000. This surprised me slightly, as for example Zeiss allocated specific number blocks to batches of lenses which were all the same (another interest of mine). However, I found that if I sorted my table on the first column, Case Number, I did get what seems to be a chronological sequence in time. The very early movement numbers, 10,6xx,xxx, do group together with the 10,724,xxx case numbers. And the later case numbers in the 10,78x,xxx series (with one exception) are the ones which have the "2500" case reference engraved inside the back.
Now I know that all this is rather nerdy stuff and of very limited interest, but it can help to check if a 2500 listed for sale has numbers in the correct range - so a 106 movement should not be in a 1078 case, for example. What would be nice is to add other examples to my table - only JUB at this stage, not cal 333 - so if you have one in your collection which is not yet included I invite you to post the numbers here. Your ID will not be revealed in the table, but country of origin would be useful. This is just a work in progress, but it could turn out to be quite interesting . . . all comments welcomed!
It's not helped by there being only 4,000 pieces in the original 2500 production run, so these are perhaps not rare, but certainly scarce. Anyhow, to help me determine the authenticity of a particular example I have passed the time by constructing a little table of Centenary 2500 serial numbers. I don't know, somebody may already have done this to greater effect than me, if so please tell me (and even better give me a link to it). I was helped in this endeavour by the fact that Omega were still using case serial numbers in 1948, so each watch has a case number and a movement number. My sample is very small, just 17 (out of 4,000!) but I got these quite quickly by searching just this forum and past eBay listings. Several of you will find your own Centenary here, but I have not identified names for obvious reasons, just the last known country of origin (well, I did identify the King of Denmark, but I don't suppose he will mind as he is dead).
What I found quite quickly is that there was no batch of case numbers allocated specifically to the 2500, although all the cases I have seen so far were made by the same maker (key symbol with the number 4 in it). Equally, there was no specific batch of movement numbers assigned to the 30.10 JUB, they are spread over a much wider range than 4,000. This surprised me slightly, as for example Zeiss allocated specific number blocks to batches of lenses which were all the same (another interest of mine). However, I found that if I sorted my table on the first column, Case Number, I did get what seems to be a chronological sequence in time. The very early movement numbers, 10,6xx,xxx, do group together with the 10,724,xxx case numbers. And the later case numbers in the 10,78x,xxx series (with one exception) are the ones which have the "2500" case reference engraved inside the back.
Now I know that all this is rather nerdy stuff and of very limited interest, but it can help to check if a 2500 listed for sale has numbers in the correct range - so a 106 movement should not be in a 1078 case, for example. What would be nice is to add other examples to my table - only JUB at this stage, not cal 333 - so if you have one in your collection which is not yet included I invite you to post the numbers here. Your ID will not be revealed in the table, but country of origin would be useful. This is just a work in progress, but it could turn out to be quite interesting . . . all comments welcomed!