NASA is now commercial space / we are entering a new ball game as Mr Shatner is about to prove... anyway NASA is and always has also been the Government..
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Okay, movements, not the whole wristwatch.
"there were Accutron movements used on the Moon – as a matter of fact, they're still up there; they were used as long duration master timers for seismographic experiments place by Apollo 11, Apollo 12, and Apollo 14. Accutron movements had a very long history of use as timing devices in satellites, going all the way back to Explorer 7, in 1959 (there was one aboard Explorer 6 as well but that spacecraft exploded on launch). And one fascinating little-known fact is that there were mechanical Bulova movements used on the Moon as well. Apollo 16 and Apollo 17 both had seismic experiment packages as well."
Also an accutron railroad watch used on Apollo-soyuz
https://omegaforums.net/threads/the-accutron-from-the-rail-roads-to-apollo-soyuz.102181/
In fact the Accutron Astronaut tuning fork wristwatch has been worn by 8 of the 12 NASA testpilots who flew the hypersonic X-15 rocket-powered aircraft... on the Mercury-9 flight, on the Gemini III & Gemini V spaceflight missions... but never on an Apollo flight, although Bulova had clocks in the cockpit panels of Gemini and Apollo spacecraft !
To be complete: Norman Thagard also wore an Accutron Astronaut on STS-7 in 1983 and Jeffrey Hoffman wore an open dial SpaceView on STS 51-D in 1985...
https://moonwatchuniverse.tumblr.com/archive
In fact the Accutron Astronaut tuning fork wristwatch has been worn by 8 of the 12 NASA testpilots who flew the hypersonic X-15 rocket-powered aircraft... on the Mercury-9 flight, on the Gemini III & Gemini V spaceflight missions... but never on an Apollo flight, although Bulova had clocks in the cockpit panels of Gemini and Apollo spacecraft !
To be complete: Norman Thagard also wore an Accutron Astronaut on STS-7 in 1983 and Jeffrey Hoffman wore an open dial SpaceView on STS 51-D in 1985...
https://moonwatchuniverse.tumblr.com/archive
not able to find what movement is in that bulova chronograph
to my limited knowledge, bulova is an american company at that time (now own by citizen japan), and there has been no known american-made chronograph movement around that time frame. suspect there is an outsourced, publicly undisclosed swiss movement in it. bulova stand point at that time was "buy america" which may not add up themselves
I’d like to see where Omega corporate publicly stated that the 3861 retains the “endorsement of NASA.” (I believe separately Omega corporate has said they subjected the 3861 to the standardized tests, etc.)
An OB salesperson, in contrast, have been known to say all kinds of things.
That much I do understand: though the distinction here, I think, is that those prior “update” versions have been issued by NASA to its astronauts and taken on missions/EVAs/etc., no?
For the reasons you state, it seems likely NASA may do the same in the future with the 3861, but that nonetheless remains to be seen in the future.
This doesn’t in any way diminish the 3861 as an incredible watch; but it does separate perhaps the marketing from the (present) facts.
so the new 3861 is more "moonwatch" (adjective) than this reference with 1861?
is it a moonwatch, or not? 😉😒
btw, compare to a "moonwatch"
bezel is wrong😵💫
hands are wrong🙄
lugs look over polished😁
dial seconds track has only 3 divisions between each🤨
no crown guard👍
not a step dial🤔
If Omega says so, then it must be a Moonwatch. However, what most of us would like to know is how they justify that title. Is that title based purely on the fact that it looks the same and is part of a long line of Moonwatches? Or is it because the movement a descendant of Cal 321? Or is it based on NASA flight qualification or that the watch has been into space? Only Omega can answer these questions and put us out of our misery. And even then, there will be those among us who will disagree with Omega.
Kudos to Omega for inventing the Moonwatch trademark. If Omega calls a watch Moonwatch then it is an "Omega Moonwatch" to me. FWIW among the various Omega Moonwatch versions my preferred ones are 105.012 and 145.012, at least until astronauts land on the moon again.
I am sure that is a 145.012 on your Avatar 😗
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i believe
ck2915, ck2998 not yet moon watch
145.022-7x, 145.0022, 35xx.50, 3xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.xxx no longer moon watch
how about 145.022-6x ? i m not sure
