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I have inherited an omega from my Grandfather. I know nothing of its history, other than it would have been bought somewhere in the Far East in either 1950s or perhaps 1960s.

I am not sure if it has any value. Clearly there is sentimental value. It is a little different to the other Constellation watches that I have seen online from that era. The cyclops style lens and the date, without any reference to ‘calendar’ on the dial. Also black dial seem uncommon in that era.

I am grateful for any help you can give. I do not feel confident taking off the case back to look for details of the caliber. As far as I can tell the watch is in original condition. It will run for 15 seconds or so then stop at a random position.
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Seems a nice, original watch with 1st gen Omega BOR bracelet with extended logo👍

However, I need high resolution and clear(unblurry) pictures of the dial to be absolutely sure. Straight on shots. Take the pictures in the outdoors, with natural light.

And it would be from the late 1950's.


Welcome, fantastic heirloom.
 
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Seems a nice, original watch with 1st gen Omega BOR bracelet with extended logo👍

However, I need high resolution and clear(unblurry) pictures of the dial to be absolutely sure. Straight on shots. take the pictures in outdoor, natural light.

And it would be from the late 1950's.


Welcome, fantastic heirloom.
Thank you. I’ll try and get some better (non mobile phone) images for you.

I would love to know more about this watch.
 
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Thank you. I’ll try and get some better (non mobile phone) images for you.

I would love to know more about this watch.


You will.......let members chime in......but, it is best to get a referral to a WM conversant in these vintage Omega watches for servicing. They can open up the back and you can snap pictures of the movement and inside the case back, that is where you'll find confirmation of the reference, plus discover if the mov't has been kept moisture free in the past 60 years.

General Location? so a member might suggest to you a WM?



The reason it runs a bit as you handle it, it is an automatic. A good sign if it appears to run a bit. Until serviced, I wouldn't wind it by the crown, the analogy being.....would you sit and crank and crank and crank a 60 year old car engine that had sat idle?
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You will.......let members chime in......but, it is best to get a referral to a WM conversant in these vintage Omega watches for servicing. They can open up the back and you can snap pictures of the movement and inside the case back, that is where you'll find confirmation of the reference, plus discover if the mov't has been kept moisture free in the past 60 years.

General Location? so a member might suggest to you a WM?



The reason it runs a bit as you handle it, it is an automatic. A good sign if it appears to run a bit. Until serviced, I wouldn't wind it, the analogy being.....would you sit and crank and crank and crank a 60 year old car engine that had sat idle?

I’m in the U.K., Scotland to be precise.
 
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I am not sure if it has any value. Clearly there is sentimental value. It is a little different to the other Constellation watches that I have seen online from that era. The cuckoos style lens and the date, without any reference to ‘calendar’ on the dial. Also black disks seem uncommon in that era.

You caught me 😁

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This could be a real winner... Great heirloom! But I'm confused about the modelnumber. What's the diameter? It could'nt be a 168.001 right? I never saw one with a black dial. But far east, it looks big on the wrist, hmmm... Or 2852 with domed dial?
 
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At first glance it seems to have lume on the hands but none on the dial which suggests one or other isn't original. But it could just be the photos and maybe there are small lume dots there.
 
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Shabbaz Shabbaz
This could be a real winner... Great heirloom! But I'm confused about the modelnumber. What's the diameter? It could'nt be a 168.001 right? I never saw one with a black dial. But far east, it looks big on the wrist, hmmm... Or 2852 with domed dial?

If that’s actually a 168.001 original black dial... wow.

I‘d have guessed 2852, too. Correct crown for the ref, too and I’ve seen a couple of them with that kind of date window / plexi.

But no matter how elaborate the guessing here might be, as @TexOmega said: Take it to a local watch maker and have him open it to take pictures of the movement (with the rotor in positions so that serial# and movement# are visible) and the inside of the case back. That, together with better pictures of the dial will help massively in finding out what and how genuine it is.
 
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At first glance it seems to have lume on the hands but none on the dial which suggests one or other isn't original. But it could just be the photos and maybe there are small lume dots there.
I’ll try for better photos... no lume. Just gold batons.
 
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This could be a real winner... Great heirloom! But I'm confused about the modelnumber. What's the diameter? It could'nt be a 168.001 right? I never saw one with a black dial. But far east, it looks big on the wrist, hmmm... Or 2852 with domed dial?
I have slim wrists. I took digital callipers to the watch. The entire case is 34mm in diameter.
 
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I have slim wrists. I took digital callipers to the watch. The entire case is 34mm in diameter.

So 2852 it might be. 😀
 
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I’ll try for better photos... no lume. Just gold batons.
The hands have a line of lume up the middle or at least it sure looks that way. It looks dark because it was radium and has deteriorated but it is there. Like I say, it should be both hands and dial or neither. It raises a question over originality but it doesn't detract from it being an interesting desirable piece.
 
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This could be a real winner... Great heirloom! But I'm confused about the modelnumber. What's the diameter? It could'nt be a 168.001 right? I never saw one with a black dial. But far east, it looks big on the wrist, hmmm... Or 2852 with domed dial?
Looks like a 34mm case diameter according to my cheap digital callipers.
 
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Does that fond exist?

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I haven’t seen this connection of the i to the o before - no expert here, it sure looks different than on my 2852s, but I thought I’d point it out for others to chime in.
 
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A 2852 with crossed Ts?

That was the first thing that caught my eye.
Later 'er' chronometer and the earlier double crossed 't's ... confused
 
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Does that fond exist?

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I haven’t seen this connection of the i to the o before - no expert here, it sure looks different than on my 2852s, but I thought I’d point it out for others to chime in.
Any help is welcomed... I just would love to know more about the watch. I’ve had it for several years, and have not seen anything exactly like it.

I have no reason to think it is not genuine, simply because my Grandfather, in his day, was affluent and loved buying watches. He had many watches, so I cannot see him going out of his way to modify one, at least after the point of original purchase, but I may be wrong.
 
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