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  1. ConElPueblo Jan 13, 2020

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    The bracelet incl. end links look just fine.

    For €500 including a bracelet, you'll be very, very hard pressed to find anything better than this. I actually don't think that the price is outrageous, far from it.

    If the watchmaker would be willing to do a service at a friendly price I am sure it would clean up nicely.
     
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  2. Shabbaz Jan 13, 2020

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    Buy the watch and sell the BOR. You have yourself a cheap connie. ;)
     
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  3. Kargol Jan 13, 2020

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    How much would a used original BOD cost in medium condition?
     
  4. Shabbaz Jan 13, 2020

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    Between EUR 75 and EUR 150.

    Edit: Prices are a bit all over the place if you look at sold items on ebay.
     
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  5. Kargol Jan 13, 2020

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    Is it true that BOR bracelets were supplied only with seamasters, or some Connnies had them too?
     
  6. Shabbaz Jan 13, 2020

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    I think they were optional.
     
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  7. cristos71 Jan 13, 2020

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    Spotted/stained dial, wrong crown, in need of a service and with maybe a date wheel that has water damage/missing numbers ( see the 8 in 18 ), to me this one is a big pass. Keep your money in your pocket and save some more for a good one.

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  8. VetPsychWars Wants to be in the club! Jan 13, 2020

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    That's just the angle. Shiny stuff can look black depending where the light is.

    Tom
     
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  9. janice&fred Jan 13, 2020

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    it's all personal preference. I like to consider a watch in it's entirety and like old watches that show their age a bit. most oldies have been polished over the years and a crown replacement doesn't bother me. sure if the dial was unevenly stained with big blotches it would be a different story but this watch is not at all ugly so if the mechanicals are decent it would make for a nice honest piece. oh...and with a decent original BOR with proper end links. we got to keep in mind that these old omegas didn't always live a pampered life in someone's drawer, and as those mint examples get harder to find in the wild, these honest but bruised examples are going to become very appealing. better to develop a taste for them now!
     
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  10. Dimitris Jan 13, 2020

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    yeah it is but i forgot to take a pic
     
  11. Dimitris Jan 13, 2020

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    yeah if it was 350 I wouldnt even hesitate :D !!
     
  12. Dimitris Jan 13, 2020

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    yeah maybe you are right I will go to the shop and take a very god look at it again now that I did my homework
     
  13. Dimitris Jan 13, 2020

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    yeah he knows that I am currently a student so maybe I can buy it for 450eu and have him clean in and service it
     
  14. Dimitris Jan 13, 2020

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    most of the dirt and yellowness you see is not on the dial , its on the crystal so I will ask him to clean in and make a service cause its his job so no cost for him , if I like the results maybe I will buy it
     
  15. Dan S Jan 13, 2020

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    It will be interesting to see if this comes to be true. Ever since I have been collecting watches and participating on forums, I have read comments like this from experienced collectors, and it certainly seems like a plausible viewpoint.

    However, the trend over the past 5 years has actually been the opposite IMO. Top-notch examples are holding their value or rising, but flawed examples are bringing weaker and weaker prices. With the maturation of the vintage watch market, the "condition gap" is growing, and I am therefore more focused on condition than ever before.
     
  16. Dimitris Jan 13, 2020

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    I think everyone would prefer to buy a mint condition flawless watch than a watch with stained dial but the price gap is huge and some cant afford it :(
     
  17. Dan S Jan 13, 2020

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    Actually, I don't agree - it just depends on your priorities. I have bought top-quality collectible vintage watches in phenomenal condition within your budget (or even substantially less), but they weren't Constellations. And I would much prefer a fantastic Seamaster, Longines, Eterna, etc., to a mediocre Constellation. But this is a personal choice, and one that often evolves with time and experience. If you ask an experienced collector about their priorities, I am guessing that 95% of them will mention condition as their top priority.

    I will mention one other consideration, which may not matter very much to you right now, but may become relevant in the future. If and when you reach the point in your collecting journey where you decide to upgrade your collection, you will try to sell some watches to free up funds to buy better examples. At that point, you will learn that it's no fun trying to sell flawed pieces.
     
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  18. Dimitris Jan 13, 2020

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    Maybe I will search for a nice seamaster but at this moment because am not experienced I prefer holding the watch in my hands and inspecting it , having a conversation with the seller , that was the first omega that I found local thats the reason I asked if it looks a good buy but I get your point and you are right I have many watches that I dont wear anymore and dont like now that I got into more quality timepieces!!
     
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  19. Dimitris Jan 13, 2020

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    I would like to hear some more opinios please :) !!!
     
  20. VetPsychWars Wants to be in the club! Jan 13, 2020

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    I have some watches I could sell you. How's that for an opinion? :D

    Tom
     
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