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Breaking News: The New Steel Speedmaster With Caliber 321 “Ed White”
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tyrantlizardrex
·I own 5 old straight lug Speedmasters but owning a new straight lug watch that I can wear every day is a god send.
Why can't you wear the ones you have everyday?
These are mass produced watches.
Has everyone lost their fricking minds?
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tyrantlizardrex
·Agreed, seems we have been spoilt with LE's in the £4-5k range, this may not happen again.
Frankly. at £4-5k I think they've been taking the piss.
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mancio
·Why can't you wear the ones you have everyday?
These are mass produced watches.
Has everyone lost their fricking minds?
Sure if one is a millionaire, But if one is not rich guy and bought them a while ago before they became so pricey it can be a problem when "just" a bezel is 2K and a dial other 2/3K if you need some parts.
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Listentoyoureyes
·It looks like there is no more creativity in the watch industry, everyone just does iterations of old models. So boring.
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Denarius
·How many people can wear an Ed White, maybe in great condition and wear it like they don't care everyday?
Sure if one is a millionaire, But if one is not rich guy and bought them a while ago before they became so pricey it can be a problem when "just" a bezel is 2K and a dial other 2/3K if you need some parts.
I have a very nice Ed White 64, Being honest I,m not a wealthy man at all, but I wear it quite a lot and in rotation with other watches, saying that I wouldn’t even think about wearing it when working on the house or car as I wouldn’t with most of my other collection, that’s what G-Shocks are for!
Leaving a watch in the safe to increase in value is fine if you prefer money over watches but that’s not me.
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tyrantlizardrex
·How many people can wear an Ed White, maybe in great condition and wear it like they don't care everyday?
Sure if one is a millionaire, But if one is not rich guy and bought them a while ago before they became so pricey it can be a problem when "just" a bezel is 2K and a dial other 2/3K if you need some parts.
If you’ve got to the point where you no longer think you can wear them, because they’re too valuable, then it’s time to at least profit from the delusional insanity, and cash out.
There’s zero point in owning a watch you’re not willing to wear.
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Denarius
·It looks like there is no more creativity in the watch industry, everyone just does iterations of old models. So boring.
Bit like the music industry!!
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mancio
·If you’ve got to the point where you no longer think you can wear them, because they’re too valuable, then it’s time to at least profit from the delusional insanity, and cash out.
There’s zero point in owning a watch you’re not willing to wear.
The funny thing? he doesn't sell them no matter what.
Sure he wears them sometimes but 90% of the time they are in the safe and i believe, not on these extreme, that there are people out there that love their perfect Ed White and wear them some times but just don't want to run the risk and also don't want to sell them because they love them.
The new Ed it's a strange solution, a stunning watch with a retro look that you can wear in peace, and for many this is a real option.
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Screwbacks
·all interesting discussions and opinions are purely academics as of now since omega has officially released the photos of what we will see in reality. im sure the designers or omega engineers have considered all these inputs before they come into the final design. whether or not it has none of the characteristics of the vintage reference, it is water under the bridge. the only choice left is whether one will buy it or not. the main attraction of this watch is the 321.
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flw
··history nerdAny chance the the 'new' 3861 will have an applied logo and the new bracelet?
And I don't think that the 1861 will simply disappear from the website, although it may well disappear from stores. The third-generation Seamaster Diver (smooth dial and ceramic bezel) was still available on Omega's website at its lower price for more than a year after the introduction of the fourth-generation current model ... I think Omega just waited until the last of them were shipped out of the warehouse before they labeled it "no longer available". The 1861 was made in big batches, I would think, and so they have a fair amount of back stock to sell yet. And the price difference alone, when the 3861 appears, will be more than sufficient to get the last of the 1861s sold.
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imagwai
·It looks like there is no more creativity in the watch industry, everyone just does iterations of old models. So boring.
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··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorIf you’ve got to the point where you no longer think you can wear them, because they’re too valuable, then it’s time to at least profit from the delusional insanity, and cash out.
There’s zero point in owning a watch you’re not willing to wear.
Bingo
How many people can wear an Ed White, maybe in great condition and wear it like they don't care everyday?
Sure if one is a millionaire, But if one is not rich guy and bought them a while ago before they became so pricey it can be a problem when "just" a bezel is 2K and a dial other 2/3K if you need some parts.
These are tool watches that lasted 50 years and if well kept they will last another 50 with regular wearing.
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Claven2
·I really like everything about this, except would prefer a standard 1960's pre-moon hippocampus on the back. No real point in a display back on a standard copper plated manual wind 321. A regular back would allow the watch to wear slimmer and incorporate the antimagnetic shield feature.
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Robbyman
·The local Omega Boutique just contacted me saying they are ‘only getting one’
I’m not sure he knows it is not limited but either way they will be hard to get hold of.
For example this chain got 10 of the Apollo 11 50th anniversary. Compare that to just 1 for the Ed White.
While limited due to production I don’t see this doing a Daytona as the general public will have no idea about it. Buy the time they do Omega will be onto the next best thing.
I am number 1 on the list so will get ‘the one’.
I’m not sure he knows it is not limited but either way they will be hard to get hold of.
For example this chain got 10 of the Apollo 11 50th anniversary. Compare that to just 1 for the Ed White.
While limited due to production I don’t see this doing a Daytona as the general public will have no idea about it. Buy the time they do Omega will be onto the next best thing.
I am number 1 on the list so will get ‘the one’.
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Claven2
·I love the look of the watch, but the pricing is something I can't justify. I'll try some maths...
The 2998 Pulsations has the straight lug case, ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal and RRP was £4.7k. This Ed White has those things as well as a 321 movement, bracelet and sapphire caseback for an extra ~£5.5k. (I've not seen UK pricing yet but 13k CHF is about £10.2k)
A sapphire sandwich Moonwatch on bracelet is £4,700.
A hesalite Moonwatch with a steel caseback on leather is £3,910.
That's £790 for a bracelet, sapphire cystal and caseback and the 1863 movement.
If you take that for £790 for the caseback and bracelet (ignoring any cost for the 1863 over the 1861 movement), then you're looking at £4,710 - more than the price of a sapphire sandwich Moonwatch - for the 321 movement. And that's over the cost of an 1861, not including the cost of the original movement!
Fundamentally Lemania should have all the tech specs for the movement stashed away, and they were producing it 50 years ago, so we can't say there's any fancy tech in it, although I'm sure there was some new tooling. The Racing Speedmaster with a Master Chronometer 9900 movement is only £2,340 more expensive than the sapphire sandwich, and that has tech in it from the last 50 years.
I know it's a free market, Omega can charge what they want, and I'm certain these will sell very well; but for me they're taking the Michael with the marketing around their "new" 321 movement.
It is what it is - an excuse for omega to elevate the price e point to near Daytona levels. If you are surprised, you shouldn't be. This trend has been a long time coming, just look at the escalating comparables between PM globemasters and day-dates or the AT and the DJ.
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LeonDeBayonne
·Has everyone lost their fricking minds?
Yes
