Breaking News: The New Steel Speedmaster With Caliber 321 “Ed White”

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How many people can wear an Ed White, maybe in great condition and wear it like they don't care everyday?
Sure if one is a millionaire, But if one is not rich guy and bought them a while ago before they became so pricey it can be a problem when "just" a bezel is 2K and a dial other 2/3K if you need some parts.
Agree, but with the price of this new 321 being what it is, for many of those people it won't be the solution they are looking for.
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I really like everything about this, except would prefer a standard 1960's pre-moon hippocampus on the back. No real point in a display back on a standard copper plated manual wind 321. A regular back would allow the watch to wear slimmer and incorporate the antimagnetic shield feature.

That's a really good suggestion.
I felt Omega did right with the display back, as there is no NASA association and the back would have been bare.
Hippocampus would have been a great choice, but I'm afraid Omega is all about showing off the movement on the reissue 321 models.

On another note, I think it's a bit ridiculous what they say they had to go through to recreate this movement.
They've made it before. I'm sure they didn't just throw all the blueprints away when they stopped making them.
From my engineering background I can say that manufacturing components from original drawings will always be more precise than 3D scanning something and guessing wear to come up with your dimensions.
But sure, it sounds a lot better to have gone through this step.
 
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There’s zero point in owning a watch you’re not willing to wear.

For you that may be the case, but not everyone collects the same way. If someone wants to buy a watch and never wear it, and keep it in a safe and just admire it from time to time, who are we to tell them they are "doing it wrong"? There are plenty of things that are collected in this world that are never used for their intended purposes, so why should wrist watches be any different?

For the record, I wear all the watches I own, but that doesn't mean I think everyone should.
 
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Now is the perfect opportunity for Stern to announce that PP is going to meet demand for the 5711, increase production, and reduce the price to $15K USD.
 
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Would they? I don't really see that most people give a toss, beyond some of the more intense elements of the collector/investor crowd.

This is the beginning of a two tiered, and much more expensive manual wind Speedmaster range, where the RRP is now going to solidly be north of £7k if you want into a "traditional-esque moonwatch".
I see two types of negative responses on this thread.

1. If you prefer vintage and would rather buy a true Ed White, guess what... this release isn’t targeted to you.

2. If you prefer a Speedmaster because it’s priced well below a Daytona, guess what... this release isn’t targeted to you.

The Omega Speedmaster is very well known globally, to an audience beyond those of us with multiple watches in our collection and those who log in to online watch forums more than our bank accounts.

I have met several people over the years who bought or received a “moonwatch” many years ago and they’ve worn it regularly as their sole or primary watch.

This watch is a beautiful execution of a modern take on a watch with a very rich history. It is priced up-market intentionally you attract to buyers at higher income levels who want something “special”.
 
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I'm number 11 on the "list" for one. Let's see how long I'll have to wait till I get a call.
 
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Put my name on the list as soon as I saw email. I live in London but had to go to Geneva to get my 50th anniversary piece as could not get one in London. So I've now got some sort of relationship with the OB in Geneva and they have confirmed in on the list. Lets see.....
 
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Why can't you wear the ones you have everyday?

These are mass produced watches.

Has everyone lost their fricking minds?
When was the presence of a "sound mind" required for any level of watch collecting? 😕

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It looks like there is no more creativity in the watch industry, everyone just does iterations of old models. So boring.
Really? Have you been following all of the launches of Apple/Fitbit/Gharmin/etc? There is a ton of development for watches, they just happen to electronic and not of interest to us.

There is also a lack of exciting new horse saddle development...
 
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That's a really good suggestion.
I felt Omega did right with the display back, as there is no NASA association and the back would have been bare.
Hippocampus would have been a great choice, but I'm afraid Omega is all about showing off the movement on the reissue 321 models.

On another note, I think it's a bit ridiculous what they say they had to go through to recreate this movement.
They've made it before. I'm sure they didn't just throw all the blueprints away when they stopped making them.
From my engineering background I can say that manufacturing components from original drawings will always be more precise than 3D scanning something and guessing wear to come up with your dimensions.
But sure, it sounds a lot better to have gone through this step.


Maybe a second, non display, caseback will come with what will likely be a pretty nice box set?
 
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This thread is seriously lacking photographs, gents !



Lucky me this one didn’t sell during last weeks, at least I still can contribute to the visual enhancement of this thread 😀
 
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I'm number 11 on the "list" for one. Let's see how long I'll have to wait till I get a call.
I would say you have a few years of waiting before you get the call.
 
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It's quite interesting reading through all 12 pages of this thread. I think the discussion would be much different if the price was a tad less. OF members have been drooling for a SS 321 release, but now that it is here, it seems that many people are upset with the pricing! I think it's a beautiful watch and is tastefully designed, but like many of you, I don't think the price is justified. I'm not in the market for this one even though my OB called and asked! At that price point, there are other Omegas I would rather own...
 
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Frankly. at £4-5k I think they've been taking the piss.
yeah the watch is "MSRP"d at ~$5250, but how many people pay full MSRP for something so mass produced?
Look at the Post Exchange, US sevicemembers website--it's like an online Costco. Omega and Tag are the high end, and there's always a sale...they're routinely priced at $1k less, and several times a year they're even cheaper. I paid ~50% MSRP for my last one...I can't see Omega as wanting that to continue...though I wonder if the price increase will coincide with a production decrease...?
 
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The introduction of the 321 reminds me of what often happens in the car and motorcycle industries. A manufacturer introduces a concept vehicle and the reaction is overwhelming, the public says they will run down to the dealer and buy one if they would really make the vehicle. So it is greenlighted and upon release to the marketplace it flops. All of a sudden people aren't interested, 'too expensive, too many compromises made, just not interested any more'. The 321 really is an answer to a question very few people were asking. Just how many customers are out there for a watch containing a very old movement design? A few, obviously, but the reaction from many who have been pining for this watch have been mixed. Some don't like the sapphire crystal, or clear back, most don't like the price. So what is Omega's reason for this watch? Obviously they think it will make money for them, but I wonder if they vastly overestimated the demand. We will find out going forward, but this is a very expensive product in a very competitive market.
 
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Just how many customers are out there for a watch containing a very old movement design?

My SWAG would be about 2,000 per year...just a guess...😉
 
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The introduction of the 321 reminds me of what often happens in the car and motorcycle industries. A manufacturer introduces a concept vehicle and the reaction is overwhelming, the public says they will run down to the dealer and buy one if they would really make the vehicle. So it is greenlighted and upon release to the marketplace it flops. All of a sudden people aren't interested, 'too expensive, too many compromises made, just not interested any more'. The 321 really is an answer to a question very few people were asking. Just how many customers are out there for a watch containing a very old movement design? A few, obviously, but the reaction from many who have been pining for this watch have been mixed. Some don't like the sapphire crystal, or clear back, most don't like the price. So what is Omega's reason for this watch? Obviously they think it will make money for them, but I wonder if they vastly overestimated the demand. We will find out going forward, but this is a very expensive product in a very competitive market.

Totally agree

It's not a question of will they sell the first years production.. That will go to enthusiasts. It's who will they sell the year after and the year after to.. They make a huge gamble by making the price point this high but not making it an LE

Thats why this has secondary market price train wreck written all over it. People don't buy ss rolexes or pateks for the movement
 
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This had occurred to me too Eugene. This lume is different to the toffee/beige colour used on the earlier recreations, it’s more like the colour of new tritium so it can perhaps be forgiven and maybe even embraced. Super white would look wrong here. If they had wanted to go full faux then I would have expected a darker colour. This is recreating a watch that used tritium, the earlier ones like the Trilogy or SM300 or ‘57 were mimicking radium though so perhaps that has some bearing on their choice.

What I find more and more crazy as time goes by is how every lemming on the internet throws 'faux tina' in when they diss a watch (like this).
 
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A day after release the price is now looking daunting, I dont think they will struggle to sell at all but the price brings a lot of other watches into the mix, saying that who thought BLNR's would be £12k+..