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路No chance of finding one but you can have one made out of 18K, it helps to have a dogleg with a sharp case as a reference for the goldsmith to go off but they can do it without much difficulty
Bought at auction: Constellation 167.005 18ct gold
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Peemacgee
路路Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersIt helps regarding the shape, but especially among doglegs there were quite a number of different case manufactures / case styles with minute differences that might not be visible to the naked eye at first. They are significant enough, however, so that bezels arent necessarily interchangable. It's a pain in the butt.
SGR produced early 6-digit doglegs and late 60s doglegs and CB cases are blended into that timeframe as well.
I suppose it helps that the case is 18k and the manufacturer is noted in the poincon de maitre 'key' - so, the OP is now looking for a late 60s (possibly early 70s ) case (if indeed the dial belongs to the watch), manufactured by GF.
However, we now know that the watch is such a jumble that getting a competent jeweller to measure the required diameter and copying any gold dogleg Constellation from the approximate timeframe would probably do.
I'm not sure that I could be bothered but at least it would save another Constellation from the scrap heap.
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路OK, it's decision time maybe next week.
For what it's worth, it appears to keep reasonable time. I would need to test properly, but << 1 min/ day. Will test properly when I return from a trip.
Before decisions, might I ask what would salvage value be on this馃槙?
Current weight, excluding strap & bars is 37.5 grams
For what it's worth, it appears to keep reasonable time. I would need to test properly, but << 1 min/ day. Will test properly when I return from a trip.
Before decisions, might I ask what would salvage value be on this馃槙?
Current weight, excluding strap & bars is 37.5 grams
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路Before decisions, might I ask what would salvage value be on this馃槙?
Current weight, excluding strap & bars is 37.5 grams
The movement should be 11-12g. A little bit for dial, hands, crown, stem etc means roughly 20g for the case, so ~2k USD +/-10%. Movement has some value too.
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路And to add a comment: I鈥榤 always sorry about being so negative regarding a project because while they鈥檙e rarely financially feasible, I often find them good fun.
Thing is that even if we ignore other condition issues, literally the one part of a vintage watches that鈥檚 by far the hardest to replace is the bezel.
If you can sell it for scrap or above I鈥檇 do that and move on - most of all, though, don鈥檛 let this discourage you.
Thing is that even if we ignore other condition issues, literally the one part of a vintage watches that鈥檚 by far the hardest to replace is the bezel.
If you can sell it for scrap or above I鈥檇 do that and move on - most of all, though, don鈥檛 let this discourage you.
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路Assuming the on-line information is correct,and it correlates with comments here, I will not lose anything on the modest purchase price. So nothing lost.
I doubt I have the appetite to hunt down a bezel,and it will never be perfect anyhow.
A respected watchmaker has give a fair price to service and polish the crystal, and do a minimal clean on the dial, if feasible. I am debating if this is worthwhile. At least we would know what we have.
I expect there is someone out there who has a use for the movement & the case has an inherent value.
The reality is I have 3 decent watches I don't even use that often/ Seamaster/ JLC reverso duoface & JLC Master Control. All perfect and rarely worn other than socially. If this was an authentic birth year (1964) I might have persisted, but if it's a pick & mix.....
I doubt I have the appetite to hunt down a bezel,and it will never be perfect anyhow.
A respected watchmaker has give a fair price to service and polish the crystal, and do a minimal clean on the dial, if feasible. I am debating if this is worthwhile. At least we would know what we have.
I expect there is someone out there who has a use for the movement & the case has an inherent value.
The reality is I have 3 decent watches I don't even use that often/ Seamaster/ JLC reverso duoface & JLC Master Control. All perfect and rarely worn other than socially. If this was an authentic birth year (1964) I might have persisted, but if it's a pick & mix.....
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路And to add a comment: I鈥榤 always sorry about being so negative regarding a project because while they鈥檙e rarely financially feasible, I often find them good fun.
Thing is that even if we ignore other condition issues, literally the one part of a vintage watches that鈥檚 by far the hardest to replace is the bezel.
If you can sell it for scrap or above I鈥檇 do that and move on - most of all, though, don鈥檛 let this discourage you.
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路路Oooo subtitles!You've basically bought a 20g lump of 18K gold there with a few bits you might after a lot of time and effort get a couple of hundred bucks for. If you can be bothered with the hassle that is. It rather depends on how near to spot your local gold buyer pays but if you bought it at less than $1,800 then you are ahead. If not, not so much.
This is not a good candidate for throwing good money after bad. I know a guy who can remake bezels like these (and does so for a leading British authorised repair house) but I suspect to have one so made would cost you over $500.
This is not a good candidate for throwing good money after bad. I know a guy who can remake bezels like these (and does so for a leading British authorised repair house) but I suspect to have one so made would cost you over $500.
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路You've basically bought a 20g lump of 18K gold there with a few bits you might after a lot of time and effort get a couple of hundred bucks for. If you an be bothered with the hassle. It rather depends on how near to spot your local gold buyer pays but if you bought it at less than $1,800 then you are ahead. If not, not so much.
This is not a good candidate for throwing good money after bad. I know a guy who can remake bezels like these (and does so for a leading British authorised repair house) but I suspect to have one so made would cost you over $500.
that perfectly crystallises my view as things have evolved. I bought it for a bit less that that, so the loss ( if any) is insignificant. Off to Italy in the morning for a break, so will reconsider when I return. It feels bad form to break into parts, so I might put for sale (ebay?) with an honest description and see if there are any takers. I have had many more much more expensive lessons over the years 馃榾
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路You've basically bought a 20g lump of 18K gold there with a few bits you might after a lot of time and effort get a couple of hundred bucks for. If you an be bothered with the hassle. It rather depends on how near to spot your local gold buyer pays but if you bought it at less than $1,800 then you are ahead. If not, not so much.
This is not a good candidate for throwing good money after bad. I know a guy who can remake bezels like these (and does so for a leading British authorised repair house) but I suspect to have one so made would cost you over $500.
that perfectly crystallises my view as things have evolved. I bought it for a bit less that that, so the loss ( if any) is insignificant. Off to Italy in the morning for a break, so will reconsider when I return. It feels bad form to break into parts, so I might put for sale (ebay?) with an honest description and see if there are any takers. I have had many more much more expensive lessons over the years 馃榾
PS, just opened my desk drawer and timekeeping is spot on. Still running from a brief wind I did when collected yesterday and no obvious deviation from computer time. Maybe a few seconds.
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cristos71
路I'd scrap it tbh rather than going through all that hassle with Ebay, risk, high fees, etc, etc...nowhere near enough upside with this watch whatever you do.
Time and effort have a value too
Time and effort have a value too
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SOG53
路Don鈥檛 bother with any cleanup or service that will be wasted money
Missing bezels are not uncommon and can be tricky to spot on single frontal photo. Don鈥檛 feel bad about it at all.
You will have nice amount for another watch !
Missing bezels are not uncommon and can be tricky to spot on single frontal photo. Don鈥檛 feel bad about it at all.
You will have nice amount for another watch !
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