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Beware of FULLYWOUND - Kostas - Folkestone, UK

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@Vasigan were you the person who was defending fullywound when he was caught swapping bridges on a Seamaster 300? I recall that involved a collector from South Africa
 
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Yes, there's already plenty of information out there about him, and it's always good to do your due diligence before sending valuable items to strangers. The current thread will be one more to add to the list, but it won't help people unless they do the search.
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@Vasigan were you the person who was defending fullywound when he was caught swapping bridges on a Seamaster 300? I recall that involved a collector from South Africa
That was not me mate. I saw that post recently and that collector was named Mark.

There are a number of high end vintage collectors and its possible he used Kostas too.

Suggest you read all the threads involving Kostas properly.
 
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I collect and sell as a hobby.

Yes - that’s my website.

How is this relevant to my thread about Kostas and are you trying to get at something?
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What a nightmare, i really feel sorry for you !
Thank you ... certainly stressful but I will get my money back and the universe has a way of serving justice on rogues like Kostas.
 
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I collect and sell as a hobby.

Yes - that’s my website.

How is this relevant to my thread about Kostas and are you trying to get at something?

Sometimes I feel there is more to a story than meets the eye.
Obviously you have fallen out and there is some kind of gap between expectations and results. I could be wrong, but I don’t like the one sided nature of this thread. Your having a similar kind of business to Kostas but making out your a collector makes me more circumspect.
 
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Sometimes I feel there is more to a story than meets the eye.
Obviously you have fallen out and there is some kind of gap between expectations and results. I could be wrong, but I don’t like the one sided nature of this thread. Your having a similar kind of business to Kostas but making out your a collector makes me more circumspect.
The only thing one sided on this thread is your baseless and not fully thought through comments.

If you can read properly and can understand the pattern of other members’ threads about their own experience with Kostas then you would have been able to put two and two together so to speak.

You sound more like someone who is covertly trying to defend Kostas.

Another thing, I did not make out anything ... so what if I have a website to attract would be sellers ... you obviously can’t read/see properly because I don’t actually sell watches (plain speak in case you still can’t understand... there are no watches for sale on my website). I have found best way to build a solid collection is to do what some dealers do and that is do the unattractive job of finding the watches instead of just waiting for luck. I turn over half of the watches in my collection regularly either because I want to upgrade or make a small profit. I initially used Kostas to get them sold for me.

Btw even if I was a dealer it is downright silly and lazy to assume all dealers are unscrupulous.

Are you sure you not one of the only Kostas supporters on the forum or a “planter” by him to steer this thread?
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I think the rather accusatory and abrasive nature of your reply points towards the reasons for an unsuccessful resolution in you business transaction. Anyway believe it or not I have no axes to grind, or irons in this fire, so I will bow out now.

Good luck and I hope you recover an watches or funds due to you.
 
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I think the rather accusatory and abrasive nature of your reply points towards the reasons for an unsuccessful resolution in you business transaction. Anyway believe it or not I have no axes to grind, or irons in this fire, so I will bow out now.

Good luck and I hope you recover an watches or funds due to you.
Yes you are definitely a Kostas plant trying to present the “other perspective”

If you went through what I did with Kostas you might just be able to understand why I would take exception to your innuendoes and underhand remarks. I think the majority of watch fanatics on this forum are smart enough to accurately piece together this situation with Kostas, and that’s enough for me as the more people that are aware of him the less would-be victims and also just a small chance there would be one less fraudster to deal with.

Anyway I think it is senseless wasting my time replying to your particular messages as you obviously have an agenda that is contrary to the benefit of all on this forum.
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I have found best way to build a solid collection is to do what some dealers do and that is do the unattractive job of finding the watches instead of just waiting for luck. I turn over half of the watches in my collection regularly either because I want to upgrade or make a small profit. I initially used Kostas to get them sold for me.

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I think the majority of watch fanatics on this Forum are smart enough to piece together this situation with Kostas, and that’s enough for me as the more people that are aware of him the less would be victims.

Yes, we are, and we thank you for coming out and sharing. I don't believe anyone here is pro-kostas.

However, we are also smart (and neutral) enough to realise:

1) there are multiple sides to every story
2) someone who presents himself as a dealer, with a dealer website, in order to 'attract would be sellers' regardless of whether or not there are currently any watches in his 'Sell' section (your website follows a regular dealer template) is not entirely a sincere and humble collector like most folks on this forum - you are claiming to not be a 'wolf in sheeps clothing', but a 'sheep in wolfs clothing '... a highly unlikely scenario (and cliche)
3) not all dealers are unscrupulous ... however, the majority are, so on this forum (and most others) its 'guilty until proven innocent' w.r.t. dealers.
4) your manner in replying to any questioning of your 'dealership' says a lot more than your words do.

Again, to clarify, I too 'have no axes to grind, or irons in this fire'...just felt like enlightening you to what I beleive most will think upon reading. And I sincerely hope you get back what is yours.

Edit: for what it’s worth, watch enthusiast (read : not dealers) websites are usually not self-serving and are done for the love of the hobby, to help/share-with others and with zero personal gain intended...like this and this example (there are many more).
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Yes you are definitely a Kostas plant trying to present the “other perspective”

If you went through what I did with Kostas you might just be able to understand why I would take exception to your innuendoes and underhand remarks. I think the majority of watch fanatics on this forum are smart enough to accurately piece together this situation with Kostas, and that’s enough for me as the more people that are aware of him the less would-be victims and also just a small chance there would be one less fraudster to deal with.

Anyway I think it is senseless wasting my time replying to your particular messages as you obviously have an agenda that is contrary to the benefit of all on this forum.
Dude- you need to tempter the tone. You are new here, and attacking a veteran member who is simply asking for all the facts- you are quickly losing my sympathy. Reel in the hostility, read the room, understand that we don't know you.
 
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Yes you are definitely a Kostas plant trying to present the “other perspective”

If you went through what I did with Kostas you might just be able to understand why I would take exception to your innuendoes and underhand remarks. I think the majority of watch fanatics on this forum are smart enough to accurately piece together this situation with Kostas, and that’s enough for me as the more people that are aware of him the less would-be victims and also just a small chance there would be one less fraudster to deal with.

Anyway I think it is senseless wasting my time replying to your particular messages as you obviously have an agenda that is contrary to the benefit of all on this forum.

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Dude- you need to tempter the tone. You are new here, and attacking a veteran member who is simply asking for all the facts- you are quickly losing my sympathy. Reel in the hostility, read the room, understand that we don't know you.

Yup, I was 100% on "team OP" until I read that last post. Ridiculous accusations like this, and the defensive tone is definitely giving me second thoughts. 😕
 
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Kostas sounds shifty, but why do you need a middle man to sell your watches that are purchased below market value from sellers? That would cut into your profit margin tremendously. Do you smuggle them into England to bypass tariffs? There is no chance a middle man can sell a watch to make up for the commission he makes. I guess I think there is more to the story as well.
 
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This thread is taking a turn not unlike the one in the Secursus claim thread some months ago. Interesting...🍿
 
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Seeming more like “dealt with the devil and got burned” than “bit by a vampire.”
 
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With all the avenues available to sell watches why do people use other people to sell them. I must be missing part of the equation maybe it makes sense with rare Rolex etc
 
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@Vasigan - you would probably benefit from tempering your tone a bit. You are quickly but surely losing the sympathy you've built up from your experience with Fullywound.

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... you obviously can’t read/see properly because I don’t actually sell watches (plain speak in case you still can’t understand... there are no watches for sale on my website).

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I turn over half of the watches in my collection regularly either because I want to upgrade or make a small profit. I initially used Kostas to get them sold for me.

This reads a bit like the infamous Ev3rcle4r or whatever he called himself when he tried to explain why he wasn't in it to make a profit from his watch selling 😁
 
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