Authenticity Check/Information Request Omega Constellation

ok-elevator94 · Sun. 3:48am

Hi everyone,

I recently bought this vintage watch and wanted to get some opinions on authenticity and originality. The seller told me that everything is original except the band/strap, but I’d love a second opinion from people who know these watches better than I do.

I took it to a local shop yesterday who specializes in vintage watch repair and sourcing, and when I told them who the seller was, they said I was good to trust their word. I don’t not trust it, but I can’t find any comps and am just looking for any insight as to what I may have.

Thank you!

ok-elevator94 · Sun. 4:24am

Additional photos.

Passover · Sun. 5:57am

Hi and welcome at Omegaforums!

Reference number should be 168.018 (written inside the caseback, can't read it on the pics provided)

Movement should be 564 (engraved on the movement, not visiable on the pics either)

One of the rarer dial variations.

168.018 came with different hands and hour markers (and combintaions of both) yours are legit IMO

Crown may be original Omega but it's not original to this reference

Can't see the Omega sign in the middle of the crystal so this may be aftermarket and not original.

If you like post a large picture of the movement and of the inner caseback.

Nice case condition with good facets on the upper lugs

SOG53 · Sun. 10:16am

Nice watch I found another example with the linen dial
Has retained original radial brushing on bezel

https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-168-018-i-think-help.116724/

Thread 'Omega 168.018 (I think) Help' ·

Hi everyone,

I'm new to the forums and knowledge about vintage Omega in general. I hope you can bare with me. I've come across a vintage Omega constellation recently that I am quite interested...

AnimaSolo · Jul 14, 2020

Agree with @Passover it looks like 168.018 Could also possibly be 168.010 which was precursor of 168.018. Caseback will confirm we can’t read ref from photo.

Passover · Sun. 10:31am

Pretty sure it's a .018 😉

Mine says hello:

Peemacgee · Sun. 11:04am

Yep - 168.018 for me.
Looks like a very nice case.

I have a couple of niggling concerns.

1. Did Omega do a shiny 'bare metal' linen dial like this on the .018? (or has it been stripped)
2. Is this the correct font for an .018 (it's usually 'squashed' flat like @Passover 's above)
3. Some of the text and minute haches look a little funky but that could because they are applied to a linen dial
4. where is the Swiss Made?

I'm raising concerns rather than stating facts as I don't study these flat dial round cased Constellations in enough close detail to be sure.

Peemacgee · Sun. 11:13am

As an additional note - it is possible that early .018s may have had the classic .010 style text.
This watch has dauphine hands, so it may be an early version - the movt serial would help understand the age of the watch a little better.

Passover · Sun. 11:14am

Peemacgee
. where is the Swiss Made?

Good question here is another watch with the OPs specs but with "Swiss Made"

Peemacgee · Sun. 11:17am

it also doesn't have a shiny linen dial

do you have the link to this watch? -so that I can look at it in more detail please

Peemacgee · Sun. 11:29am

ok - so thanks to @Passover for a couple of useful links (by DM)

I suspect the dial is original but what the OPs pics didn't show is that the dial has significant damage from moisture intrusion (its quite badly stained in places -especially in the lower half of the dial) - and has quite bit of damage around the edges.

I think the Swiss Made has been cleaned off where you can see the blemish below the 6 index.

The case is lovely but I would pass on this watch because of the poor dial.

SOG53 · Sun. 11:32am

I believe it has already been purchased. I’m talking myself into seeing text beneath the 6 marker it would be helpful to see down angled closeup of that area

Passover · Sun. 11:47am

I hadn't noticed that but as it seems there are two different linen dials, one with a rougher texture, the other one has a lighter, more dense texture...

Peemacgee · Sun. 1:37pm

SOG53
I believe it has already been purchased. I’m talking myself into seeing text beneath the 6 marker it would be helpful to see down angled closeup of that area

There could be the remnants of something there but it should be clearly seen, so it is like that it has disappeared with the damage.

ok-elevator94 · Sun. 2:29pm

Passover
Hi and welcome at Omegaforums!

Reference number should be 168.018 (written inside the caseback, can't read it on the pics provided)

Movement should be 564 (engraved on the movement, not visiable on the pics either)

One of the rarer dial variations.

168.018 came with different hands and hour markers (and combintaions of both) yours are legit IMO

Crown may be original Omega but it's not original to this reference

Can't see the Omega sign in the middle of the crystal so this may be aftermarket and not original.

If you like post a large picture of the movement and of the inner caseback.

Nice case condition with good facets on the upper lugs

Thank you! I

Peemacgee
Yep - 168.018 for me.
Looks like a very nice case.

I have a couple of niggling concerns.

1. Did Omega do a shiny 'bare metal' linen dial like this on the .018? (or has it been stripped)
2. Is this the correct font for an .018 (it's usually 'squashed' flat like @Passover 's above)
3. Some of the text and minute haches look a little funky but that could because they are applied to a linen dial
4. where is the Swiss Made?

I'm raising concerns rather than stating facts as I don't study these flat dial round cased Constellations in enough close detail to be sure.

#4 was the thing nagging me, and I don’t think it’s covered by the crystal.

ok-elevator94 · Sun. 2:33pm

SOG53
I believe it has already been purchased. I’m talking myself into seeing text beneath the 6 marker it would be helpful to see down angled closeup of that area

Correct - already purchased. The lighting in the store admittedly didn’t show the extensiveness of the damage, it wasn’t until I walked out and saw it in the sun. I’ve accepted it at this point.

ok-elevator94 · Sun. 2:35pm

All stores/watchmakers I tried to get to today were either closed or couldn’t/wouldnt open it without creating a ticket for service. I likely won’t be able to open it until Tuesday to get a better picture of the movement and reference number.

ok-elevator94 · Sun. 2:43pm

Thanks everyone for the help and advice so far, it’s been very greatly appreciated!

ok-elevator94 · Sun. 3:36pm

Peemacgee
There could be the remnants of something there but it should be clearly seen, so it is like that it has disappeared with the damage.

The remnants of the S and W I think can be seen 😂

ok-elevator94 · Mon. 6:37pm

Peemacgee
As an additional note - it is possible that early .018s may have had the classic .010 style text.
This watch has dauphine hands, so it may be an early version - the movt serial would help understand the age of the watch a little better.

I was able to get it opened today - see attached for photos.

myouss · Mon. 9:27pm

Dial damage is a bit unfortunate, but it could be worse. Otherwise the watch looks to be in fantastic condition. Of all the examples posted in this thread yours is the sharpest by far.

Authenticity Check/Information Request Omega Constellation

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