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BradleyJ.
路Most likely by shaving and trimming the protruding lip on the bracelet to allow a normal spring bar to be used.
apollo 11 50th moonwatch bracelet available?
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Archer
路路Omega Qualified WatchmakerMy guess as well but I'm curious to hear exactly how it's done and if it's the case of just shaving the lip, how much. I asked him on Instagram and apparently its top secret 馃う
Photos of the bracelet off the watch, showing the end links should do the trick...
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SkunkPrince
路I am soooo tempted to get one of those for my WatchCo Seamaster 300, especially since it appears to fit umodified but $700 vs Uncle Seiko under $100....
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speedytoronto
路Photos of the bracelet off the watch, showing the end links should do the trick...
Al are the end links for the 50th bracelet available on their own to experiment with?
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padders
路路Oooo subtitles!I am soooo tempted to get one of those for my WatchCo Seamaster 300, especially since it appears to fit umodified but $700 vs Uncle Seiko under $100....
All the above solutions look sensible vs the $1500-2500 an original flat link inc end links costs but I honestly don't see that the 50th bracelet is the flat link saviour we have all been waiting for.
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BradleyJ.
路I am soooo tempted to get one of those for my WatchCo Seamaster 300, especially since it appears to fit umodified but $700 vs Uncle Seiko under $100....
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SkunkPrince
路I have a sneaking suspicion that an Omega clasp cover will fit an Uncle Seiko bracelet. I will of course report back either way.
Don't get me wrong, the bracelet on my Railmaster LE is very nice and I like it a lot, but from what I understand of the bracelets from Omega, once it's out of the package, no returns, so there's a risk there as well.
Don't get me wrong, the bracelet on my Railmaster LE is very nice and I like it a lot, but from what I understand of the bracelets from Omega, once it's out of the package, no returns, so there's a risk there as well.
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arcadelt
路You see this is the main point here. I was holding off saying this but the thing is, do you spend $700 to have something that either doesn't fit very well or needs machining to fit or spend $100-120 with Uncle Seiko or Forstner an have something that is designed to fit.
All the above solutions look sensible vs the $1500-2500 an original flat link inc end links costs but I honestly don't see that the 50th bracelet is the flat link saviour we have all been waiting for.
Well, as the say "don鈥檛 let the perfect be the enemy of good". Perhaps there may be a "saviour" for those who are pining after an original flat-link bracelet for their vintage watch, however, cannot find or afford it. But then is any reproduction going to sate that desire anyway (refer to discussions on the UV marked DON bezels)?
I bought this bracelet specifically to fit a modern watch, and to me it came "out of the box" because someone else did the work, so no different to an Uncle Seiko or (forthcoming) Forstner bracelet. If my experience with an Uncle Seiko BOR for a Longines Diver or the Forstner Komfit "JB" reissue is anything to go by (which I doubt), this Omega product is worlds away in terms of quality. Irrespective, I'm happy with the price I paid, and it looks and feels great, which is all that matters to me.
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SkunkPrince
路Only reason I would consider the Omega bracelet is because I have a WatcCo, so why not? If I had an original Seamaster 300, the Uncle Seiko would clearly be the better choice, I think.
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BradleyJ.
路Correct.
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watchstick_81
路Hi guys, just to be sure: I've put the Apollo 11 50th bracelet on my regular 2017 Moonwatch and the Speedy Tuesday Ultraman with a regular 19mm spring bar. This spring bar was the thickest one I could find that fit through the tunnel of the end link. And no problem fitting it to these two watches. The end links sit very low, because the lip rests on the case edge.
So the trick is to remove some of this lip so the end links tilts/rotates upwards so it sits higher between the lugs?
Because I don't get this "thin springbar" part, because it fits instantly with a regular springbar (lets say 1.8mm?).
LWC claims he doesn't modify the end links and he likes how it sits lower just like the original flat end links. While others claim that lip has been filed....
Yes I need to clean the watches ;-)
So the trick is to remove some of this lip so the end links tilts/rotates upwards so it sits higher between the lugs?
Because I don't get this "thin springbar" part, because it fits instantly with a regular springbar (lets say 1.8mm?).
LWC claims he doesn't modify the end links and he likes how it sits lower just like the original flat end links. While others claim that lip has been filed....
Yes I need to clean the watches ;-)
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BradleyJ.
路The end links sit very low, because the lip rests on the case edge.
LWC claims he doesn't modify the end links
I've never heard this claim from him however in a past IG post he had multiple 50ths for sale that were ready or sale because he just finished "modifying" them.
The facts are .....
1: you can make it fit other speedys
2: it will require modifications wether its diffrent bars or shaving the lip
3: even then I wouldn't consider the fitment as "correct"
#3 is obviously an opinion only the owner can decide. I personally dont care if its right or wrong as long as it looks good and is solid enough to trust wearing. But there is no way it would be considered "factory correct"
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BradleyJ.
路LWC claims he doesn't modify the end links
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watchstick_81
路2: it will require modifications wether its diffrent bars or shaving the lip
Well that was my point. I just used a regular springbar that just fitted through the end link and the springbar was in place instantly. No thin springbars needed. A perfect fit? No! But it's a firm fit though. So that's why I didn't get this ongoing discussion with thin springbars. Ok, with older Speedmasters (lets say up to late nineties) you indeed need a thinner springbar because the lug holes are slightly lower. That's why for example 812 end links (1479 bracelet) will not fit a modern Moonwatch case unless you file the "side flaps".
I've never heard this claim from him however in a past IG post he had multiple 50ths for sale that were ready or sale because he just finished "modifying" them.
Sorry, I was being unclear. I meant he claims he doesn't remove or adjust the lip (what else can you adjust on that end link...).
I guess we are allowed to link? https://www.instagram.com/p/B5FzddiHdGo/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
He states he doesn't remove the lip. And people who bought it from him state he did remove some of it. So I guess it's a big secret ;-)
I am wondering if removing a part of the lip will make the end link rotate more upward and create a better looking fit.
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BradleyJ.
路(what else can you adjust on that solid end link...).
I only throw this idea out there because that's literally the only other thing that can be done to the endlink (I think haha) I have a modern speedy infront of me right now, without a bracelet on it and I have the 50th endlink off its bracelet mocked up to the case (with no spring bar in) The holes line up enough to do what you did with yours but the springbar hole on the endlink is off center with the holes in the case.
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speedytoronto
路What if it was much simpler than we鈥檝e all assumed? I remember seeing these pics a while ago but couldn鈥檛 find them again till today. From these photos there is an insert in the end link that can be removed with two flat head screws. Maybe only this part needs to be modified? Reading LWC Instagram posts he says he modifies the end link but not the external lip. I鈥檓 almost certain this is what he鈥檚 doing, you can see how the end link fits much more flush on this Speedy that he鈥檚 demoing on. First photo is the bracelet end link, second is the actual case of the Apollo 50th, third photo is some hybrid that he鈥檚 built with white dial.
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BradleyJ.
路From these photos there is an insert in the end link that can be removed with two flat head screws.
I circled the problematic lip in red
