Anyone imported a watch yet after Brexit to UK from EU?

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I bought a used watch for €75 on eBay, and they charged me 20% VAT at the point of checkout. It arrived (from Belgium) with a customs declaration saying that eBay had charged €xx in VAT.

The sod of it was that I had made the seller an offer in December, and he countered but I didn't accept. I then made him a revised offer that was €10 less than his counter, and he accepted. But by the time we'd done all this it was January. So it cost me more in tax than I saved...

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I bought a used watch for €75 on eBay, and they charged me 20% VAT at the point of checkout. It arrived (from Belgium) with a customs declaration saying that eBay had charged €xx in VAT.

The sod of it was that I had made the seller an offer in December, and he countered but I didn't accept. I then made him a revised offer that was €10 less than his counter, and he accepted. But by the time we'd done all this it was January. So it cost me more in tax than I saved...

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Yes I bought an omega crown 2 days ago was £35 inc postage but I was charge just shy of £45 by the time taxes were taken by eBay (and Amex currency conversion fees I assume). I hope this means I won’t have to pay when it arrives here too!
 
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Yes I bought an omega crown 2 days ago was £35 inc postage but I was charge just shy of £45 by the time taxes were taken by eBay (and Amex currency conversion fees I assume). I hope this means I won’t have to pay when it arrives here too!
I am no expert but think the intention is that goods under £135 value should have vat collected at the point of sale rather than the point of import so your purchase seems to be correct (albeit frustrating)
 
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Yes my experience is 20% added by ebay.
Great deal Boris
I understand the sentiment but technically not part of the "deal" as it is not the EU charging the VAT it is the uk government. Of course this may be in response to the EU charging some sort of VAT on similar items purchased from the uk but just to be clear the uk could decide not to charge the vat on second hand goods unilaterally if it so wished. After all we are now a sovereign nation as I keep getting told ad nauseam by brexiteers.
 
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I understand the sentiment but it is not the EU charging the VAT it is the uk government. Of course this may be in response to the EU charging some sort of VAT on similar items purchased from the uk but just to be clear the uk could decide not to charge the vat on second hand goods unilaterally if it so wished. After all we are now a sovereign nation as I keep getting told ad nauseam by brexiteers.

This is what I have been thinking, surely as a sovereign nation we should be able to get rid of this! But I guess the government don't want to haha
 
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This is what I have been thinking, surely as a sovereign nation we should be able to get rid of this! But I guess the government don't want to haha
As I think you indicated earlier the theory is that it will make people think twice before buying abroad and encourage buying at home.
This may be ok where it is something common with good availability from different sources however when it comes to rare and collectables (not just watches) this just isn't the case.
 
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I just checked on eBay a secondhand Oris Aquis from the UK, for example purpose (though I'm looking for a nice green one btw) and it does give approximative import taxes in the description to bring it to motherland Belgium. A good 25%! ... That's rough

 
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I just checked on eBay a secondhand Oris Aquis from the UK, for example purpose (though I'm looking for a nice green one btw) and it does give approximative import taxes in the description to bring it to motherland Belgium. A good 25%! ... That's rough


I would imagine this is because this seller has opted in to the Global shipping program. But yes, I agree rough!
 
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Just wondering if anyone has had to pay import duty. I received a watch last week from Belgium and had no request for import fees, has anyone else had any experience yet and had to pay for imports from EU?

Want to be prepared for any higher priced watches.

Thanks,

Ollie

For private watch sales from the EU (or anywhere outside UK for that matter) you will be liable for import tax/duty (variable but typically negligible) and VAT (20% of value if over 135GBP). Fairly straightforward.

A while back, I recall the UK government annouced a "grace period" of import checks into the UK, but not vice versa to the EU.
This basically meant the UK didnt have the infrastructure in place to carry out all the checks, and tried to pass it off as a gift to the public.
There was no date on this period that I recall, so whenever they get the infrastructure in place you can expect to start being charged.

Could be a bit of a roll of the dice up until then...The GSP on eBay is another beast, where if the seller has opted in, you will pay it up front instead of when it lands in the country.
 
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I just read this online

Would the UK abolish VAT after Brexit?
In theory the UK could abolish VAT after Brexit, but in practice it is very unlikely. VAT is a major revenue raiser[3], forecast to raise approximately £125bn in 2017/18, which amounts to 18% of tax receipts.

VAT is also the International Monetary Fund's “tax of choice” and over 160 countries have now introduced it - it accounts for 20% of tax revenue globally. The UK has been party to the internationally agreed standards of the OECD International VAT/GST guidelines[4] and is unlikely to reject this approach.

The government’s technical guidance for businesses preparing for the end of transition indicates the government plans to continue to have a VAT system in the UK.[5]

I therefore propose that we contact our local representatives to suggest the government should remove VAT on second hand items that are imported especially vintage watches, especially Omega, especially to us OF members
 
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As I understand it the above (from OllieOnTheRocks) is correct.

The below is based on new goods, I do not commonly purchase used goods in general across international boundaries - but am told the same or similar applies for used goods too now.

So we pay VAT on new goods imported to the UK - this is currently 20% of the declared customs value by the seller on the shipping forms.

International travellers coming to the UK and purchasing new goods in the UK will be unable to reclaim the VAT they pay (as they have done to date) when leaving the country through the abolishment of the VAT reclaim scheme - purchases made before 31/12/20 have a 3 month grace period for reclaims/people to leave UK and still apply. (for another thread, but I understand this accounts for 40-70% of the sales for some retailers of goods at outlet stores at the likes of Bicester Village, so you can imagine if this trade now moves to EU outlets instead due to their schemes remaining in place, then this will be a death nail for retailers of luxury items at boutiques e.g. Omega etc).

For UK travellers purchasing new goods whilst in the EU, you should be able to reclaim your foreign VAT amount from the foreign tax office but that is down to you, the seller and the tax office overseas to resolve, but nevertheless the first point above applies, you will be charged UK VAT when the goods enter our shores.

For UK travellers purchasing new goods in duty free (e.g. Heathrow), well you cant unless you can evidence a foreign residence being your main residence and they are mandated to ship the goods to that address, you can not pick up a watch from duty free without the duty, you in theory can pick up a watch at duty free and walk out with it, if you pay the UK VAT, otherwise in general we do not have the benefit of duty free shopping anymore (except for small items and consumables etc).

In theory also, you should be able to purchase duty free items at EU duty free shops at airports but (and i am not sure about this entirely) and pay no local VAT as long as you allow them to ship it to you to your UK address (much like the new rules introduced by the UK post Brexit deal) then you should also pay no UK VAT as it should be noted as exempt on the customs declaration, however if you take the goods in person then you in theory would have to pay local VAT taxes, and UK import taxes on entry to the UK and it would be upto you to reclaim the foreign element - however the upshot is it is no longer duty free. --- As I say, I am not 100% on this one, maybe someone can confirm, refute? ---

The above was correct at time of writing (or at least what I have been informed by my accountant & tax specialist).

It does however, rely upon you declaring any goods that you are carrying across borders if purchased in foreign shops and duty free shops - that is individual choice and not my place to advise anyone what to do, but it is an offence (tax evasion) if you do not declare items that are required by law to be declared - and I for one, do not mess with 3 people in life...1) My mom, 2) The Taxman, & 3) Lucifer....
 
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The above was correct at time of writing (or at least what I have been informed by my accountant & tax specialist).

This is an excellent summary. I melted my head yesterday trying to make sense of it.

The conversation around the effect this new regime will have on tourism and luxury sales in Harrod's and other high end sales outlets in the UK will be an interesting one to follow. My guess is these guys have just lost a serious chunk on business.

On the other hand Rolex and other limited-supply/high-demand watches might become more obtainable for domestic UK customers given tax-free shoppers will likely look elsewhere.

I would have no qualms (outside a fear of being caught) in forgetting to declare a luxury watch I bought tax-free in the UK and wore on the wrist into Dublin. But if it would have to be shipped to my home address by the AD the risk/reward ratio dives to uncomfortable levels.
 
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Not looking good. A trucker from Holland had his ham sandwich confiscated by British customs agents:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/world/europe/brexit-sandwich-netherlands.html
Or, alternately, a trucker from UK had his sandwiches confiscated by the Dutch customs - that's what the article says.

If you're in UK, dealing with the EU countries is now basically the same as dealing with all the other 150+ countries last year. Start looking to USA for second hand watches now as the deals are probably better.

Cheers, Chris
 
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Or, alternately, a trucker from UK had his sandwiches confiscated by the Dutch customs - that's what the article says.

Cheers, Chris
I was really hungry, skipped breakfast that morning.😗
 
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If you're in UK, dealing with the EU countries is now basically the same as dealing with all the other 150+ countries last year. Start looking to USA for second hand watches now as the deals are probably better.

If buying any watch from overseas, that's the gist of things I'm getting from this thread...

Prices in the US do appear cheaper now 20% UK VAT will be added to anything incoming across the globe (excluding postage, insurance or any customs related add-ons).
 
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Or, alternately, a trucker from UK had his sandwiches confiscated by the Dutch customs - that's what the article says.

What can I say?--I'm dyslexic.
 
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Just got tagged for a 20% customs duty on a privately-sold watch arriving from the EU. Not unexpected, but not happy either.
 
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Not looking good. A trucker from Holland had his ham sandwich confiscated by British customs agents:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/world/europe/brexit-sandwich-netherlands.html

Food being confiscated is because quarantine rules would have coincided with customs rules.

Was bound to happen. Price of imported meat and fruit and veg will go up in the UK over time. EU will have to be UK regulation compliant for export that will cost money for a exporter to implement.
A lot more to Brexit than just duty and Vat.

Hear that you can’t have food goods for UK and Northern Ireland in the same container/consignment as two different sets of paperwork and conditions needed.