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The sales guy from my local OB said they've had a shocking number of folks do full-price orders on these sight-unseen. So either the flippers think this is going to be worth a lot, or this is shockingly popular.

I think it's going to be pretty popular, there's a definite group that specifically wants a dressy, black-and-white watch like this. So while there are some complaints here that it's too glossy or too fancy (perhaps because it walks away from the tool watch origin further) I think that's exactly what a lot of non-posters want. Heck, it's a huge, huge part of the reason that watches like the current SMP and Sub are as popular as they are.

so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet but for me I think that the rhodium-dominant markers are a huge miss. The hands are bright enough as it is, and I feel like the added bling factor from such large rhodium markers and the way they play with light- when they vanish, the starkness of the subdials isn't "defined" or framed by anything else, and when those rhodium markers catch light, they create a lot of visual noise that detracts and competes with the lacquered dial. Contrast it visually to the Speedy Tuesday 1- and for me, I'd pick that watch EVERY single day, because the markers help frame the subdials. But here, that's obviously not the point. And like others, I don't like how the subdials seem to lose their definition.

Oddly- while I traded off my Speedmaster Professional (and I haven't regretted that decision) what this release does more than anything is make me appreciate the simplicity, legibility, design, and detail of the standard black dial so, so much more. In comparison, the standard speedy becomes even more of an instant buy for me because of this release. I'm not sure I can explain why though.

Ultimately I think it goes back to my opening paragraph- while purists and collectors are going to like or hate this release based upon their own personal taste (and neither take is wrong imo), there's a huge group of watch buyers that specifically want this for how dressy it is. And that's ok. Objectively it's beautiful, even if it isn't for me.

Edit: I just want to add, that in 18k gold this watch is absolutely stunning and it totally works.
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I think it's going to be pretty popular, there's a definite group that specifically wants a dressy, black-and-white watch like this. So while there are some complaints here that it's too glossy or too fancy (perhaps because it walks away from the tool watch origin further) I think that's exactly what a lot of non-posters want. Heck, it's a huge, huge part of the reason that watches like the current SMP and Sub are as popular as they are.

Well said! It's great for people who want that look.
 
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The more I see it, the more I like it as a dressy Speedmaster. I bet it looks great in person.
 
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I think it's going to be pretty popular, there's a definite group that specifically wants a dressy, black-and-white watch like this. So while there are some complaints here that it's too glossy or too fancy (perhaps because it walks away from the tool watch origin further) I think that's exactly what a lot of non-posters want. Heck, it's a huge, huge part of the reason that watches like the current SMP and Sub are as popular as they are.

so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet but for me I think that the rhodium-dominant markers are a huge miss. The hands are bright enough as it is, and I feel like the added bling factor from such large rhodium markers and the way they play with light- when they vanish, the starkness of the subdials isn't "defined" or framed by anything else, and when those rhodium markers catch light, they create a lot of visual noise that detracts and competes with the lacquered dial. Contrast it visually to the Speedy Tuesday 1- and for me, I'd pick that watch EVERY single day, because the markers help frame the subdials. But here, that's obviously not the point. And like others, I don't like how the subdials seem to lose their definition.

Oddly- while I traded off my Speedmaster Professional (and I haven't regretted that decision) what this release does more than anything is make me appreciate the simplicity, legibility, design, and detail of the standard black dial so, so much more. In comparison, the standard speedy becomes even more of an instant buy for me because of this release. I'm not sure I can explain why though.

Ultimately I think it goes back to my opening paragraph- while purists and collectors are going to like or hate this release based upon their own personal taste (and neither take is wrong imo), there's a huge group of watch buyers that specifically want this for how dressy it is. And that's ok. Objectively it's beautiful, even if it isn't for me.

Edit: I just want to add, that in 18k gold this watch is absolutely stunning and it totally works.
This sums it up pretty perfectly. Thank you for this mini write-up!
 
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I think it's going to be pretty popular, there's a definite group that specifically wants a dressy, black-and-white watch like this. So while there are some complaints here that it's too glossy or too fancy (perhaps because it walks away from the tool watch origin further) I think that's exactly what a lot of non-posters want. Heck, it's a huge, huge part of the reason that watches like the current SMP and Sub are as popular as they are.

so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet but for me I think that the rhodium-dominant markers are a huge miss. The hands are bright enough as it is, and I feel like the added bling factor from such large rhodium markers and the way they play with light- when they vanish, the starkness of the subdials isn't "defined" or framed by anything else, and when those rhodium markers catch light, they create a lot of visual noise that detracts and competes with the lacquered dial. Contrast it visually to the Speedy Tuesday 1- and for me, I'd pick that watch EVERY single day, because the markers help frame the subdials. But here, that's obviously not the point. And like others, I don't like how the subdials seem to lose their definition.

Oddly- while I traded off my Speedmaster Professional (and I haven't regretted that decision) what this release does more than anything is make me appreciate the simplicity, legibility, design, and detail of the standard black dial so, so much more. In comparison, the standard speedy becomes even more of an instant buy for me because of this release. I'm not sure I can explain why though.

Ultimately I think it goes back to my opening paragraph- while purists and collectors are going to like or hate this release based upon their own personal taste (and neither take is wrong imo), there's a huge group of watch buyers that specifically want this for how dressy it is. And that's ok. Objectively it's beautiful, even if it isn't for me.

Edit: I just want to add, that in 18k gold this watch is absolutely stunning and it totally works.
Yeah, the more I think about it, I think this is why I'm not excited about it. I ALREADY have a dress-speedy (either my EW or my 2 tone), so the new one just doesn't seem to 'fit' in my collection.
 
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From the photos, love it. Black subdial hands might have been better. Will find some time to stop by an OB and see in person. Maybe tomorrow.

It also makes me appreciate the black dial ones, which I felt were flat and boring in the past. Still do, but at least I appreciate it more when seeing side by side photos.

I’m not planning buying any more expensive pieces for a couple years. But if I was it would be an excellent daily. Which would be sad for my Snoopy which takes most of my wrist time.
 
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But we need now first hand buyers.
So go get them fresh!
LOL

...yes please everyone buy these watches ASAP!

I'll be looking to purchase one in a few years for 5k off. Please accommodate my timeline 😀
 
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I really do like it, and it would fit in my collection well, but not at 10400. I want a 3576.50 moonphase more.
edit, especially when my Snoopy was 10600 one year ago.
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I really do like it, and it would fit in my collection well, but not at 10400. I want a 3576.50 moonphase more.
Great choice.
 
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It makes sense for a line up offered to the typical luxury retail consumer. They now have in steel as a regular line up the classic black dial, the newer white dial that came out amid a lot of positive buzz, and now this for the customers who want to split the difference aesthetically. And the pricing is what it is. At a certain level, for the typical luxury goods customer, the pricing doesn't matter. For collectors and watch nerds, it's more a question of what the secondary market pricing looks like once the buzz settles down.

I think the watch looks good, but in my check-the-box, bingo card mentality to collecting, it doesn't differentiate itself broadly enough from my other watches to start me pining for it. But I'm certainly not Omega's target consumer for this.

I haven't seen one in person but I bet it's shiny and catches the light in interesting ways. The Shiny Reverse Panda. Sounds like a skateboarding trick.
 
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I really do like it, and it would fit in my collection well, but not at 10400. I want a 3576.50 moonphase more.
The 1866 based moon/date Speedmasters are very underappreciated. Based on the 1861 movement with upgraded finishing and moon/date complication, what's not to like? Here's my Adam Lewis modded 3575.20, it originally came with WG bezel and Broad Arrow hands, cleaned it up with blue Gemini IV bezel, blue baton hands and sapphire back.
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The 1866 based moon/date Speedmasters are very underappreciated. Based on the 1861 movement with upgraded finishing and moon/date complication, what's not to like?
I don't need to know the phase of the moon, IF I AM ON THE MOON! Maybe it should have been an EARTH-Phase Speedmaster!
 
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The 1866 based moon/date Speedmasters are very underappreciated. Based on the 1861 movement with upgraded finishing and moon/date complication, what's not to like? Here's my Adam Lewis modded 3575.20, it originally came with WG bezel and Broad Arrow hands, cleaned it up with blue Gemini IV bezel, blue baton hands and sapphire back.
This is gorgeous. Dibs?
 
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it should have been an EARTH-Phase Speedmaster!
Ar'nt they the same?

At least when viewed from mars both the earth and moon have the same phase.

Eclipses should be interesting when viewed from the moon.

I have an old 18th century textbook what plots the moons orbit. Both the moon and the earth orbit the sun. Sometimes one is on the outside, other times on the inside. Sort of like two waves interacting where neither touch. Machines were made to plot this out. Would make for a rather interesting watch complication.

Venus and mercury also have phases. Why they brighten and dim.