Just curious if there is any info out there about a refresh of this watch happening in the next few months or so? I thought it was around this time last year that some info came out about the new Planet Oceans which turned out to be pretty accurate. A smaller, thinner diver 300 is about the only higher end watch I'm waiting for. Don't have much faith that it will happen, but it would be nice for me and my smaller wrists.
The 1861 Speedmaster.
The 3861 Hesalite and SS are both noticably thinner than my Snoopy 50. My brother has an 1861 Hesaite and that looks to be about the same thickness as my Snoopy 50. I'm taking the Omega 1861 measurements with a 1mm grain of salt.
Also forgot to add that the Seamaster 300 got thinned out. Previous generation was a hockey puck.
I think you're putting far too much significance on fractions of a millimeter and making some questionable comparisons in the process. The Snoopy 50 isn't a standard Moonwatch—it has a completely different caseback assembly with the animated complication—so comparing how thick your Snoopy looks or feels to your brother's 1861 Hesalite doesn't establish much about the 1861 vs. 3861 Professional.
And if you're taking published 1861 measurements with a “1 mm grain of salt,” that's a pretty substantial problem when the differences we're discussing are themselves less than 1 mm.
Same with the Seamaster 300 comment—I don't even know which Seamaster 300 you mean. Heritage? Diver 300M? Planet Ocean? If a newer generation looks or wears slimmer, that's entirely believable, but case shape, mid-case height, crystal, caseback, bezel and overall proportions can make a substantial visual difference. That's very different from claiming someone is noticing 0.5–0.75 mm of thickness.
And if we assume that Omega made a conscious design choice to "slim down" the Speedmaster Professional, which is dubious at nest, I still don't understand how the 3861 being fractionally thinner than an 1861 tells us anything meaningful about whether Omega will substantially slim down the "hockey puck" Omega diver. Those seem like unrelated conclusions.
I have my fingers crossed for a 90s/noughties inspired Seamaster.
A smaller Seamaster 300m has to be on the way. When? I have no idea. Omega currently has zero dive watches smaller than 41mm in case size. The 300 Heritage is 41mm, the 300m Professional is 42mm, and the Planet Ocean is 42mm. Omega has completely surrendered the sub-41mm dive watch market to Tudor (Black Bay 58 at 39mm and Black Bay 54 at 37mm), Longines (Hydroconquest at 39mm), Certina (38mm), Oris (39mm), and Mido (39mm).
Omega has no dive watches for men with smaller wrists, men who prefer smaller, more classically sized dive watches, and women. Stupid. I would love to talk to the people at Omega who make design decisions.
Note - I'm not asking for Omega to make a smaller SMP in place of the 42mm version. I would like a smaller SMP in addition to the 42mm, like Longines has done with the Hydroconquest (42mm and 39mm versions). I think a 39mm and 42mm SMP would be ideal.
Another note - Two years ago I was told by an Omega Boutique sales associate that Omega was planning to come out with a new Seamaster when the new James Bond actor was announced. They were also going to stop production of the No Time to Die SMP at the same time. It sounds like Amazon will be naming the new actor some time this fall, and defintely before 2027. Perhaps that is when a revamped SMP will be launched.
