Because the fakers cottoned on that people would pay way over the odds for this model early on so have been putting them together for years. Are you seriously contending that this situation is anything more than the auction of a Franken drawing in some sucker money and/or being shilled to death?
the counterfeiters have always been there and will always be there! we suspend the criticism of the clock for a moment, these are clear to everyone. Let's focus on the event as an end in itself. Who will buy this Apollo-Soyuz watch will not have many choices. If the new owner decides to sell it in pieces, we know that the back is engraved with the number 286, that the dial and the bracelet are decent ... I think it can reach a maximum of 18k ... If you decide instead of not reselling it, the buyer will show to go further, my researches and your criticism to the clock, these do not interest him and ... they do not seem to interest the rest of the purchasing market ... these gentlemen want to own an Apollo-Soyuz with almost all the original parts ... in the historical cars it becomes so ... the value of the car goes up if it has all the original parts. Otherwise they cost less ..😉
I suspect the OP is simply commentating a social phenomenon.
So your OK with counterfeiters making money making fake watches as long as they are AS models? Or your OK with non factory watches presented as factory made?
none of us knows the true history of this watch and as a result we can not guarantee anything. I only say that other AS have been sold at important auctions but in these auctions no one has raised so many doubts about the origin of the watch ... see:
LOT 247 Hotel Noga Hilton, Geneva, 24th April 2004 No. 30069600
I absolutely do not tolerate the counterfeiters and above all be scammed ... I have established on several occasions ... I feel betrayed by OMEGA himself ... but I do not want to talk about it ...
I just wanted to clarify the fact that the market has probably changed pages; if the buyer is a speculator, he has probably already decided to sell the watch in pieces but if this buyer keeps it for himself (as for historical cars) it means that he "will be content" to be one of the few in the world to own an Apollo-Soyuz with some anomaly ... that's all
This watch has a 1970 movement with a metal brake. The case will not fit a 5.5mm pusher. So how exactly can you call this anything but a put together watch. Would this watch be acceptable to you if the extract stated delivery to the US in 1970?
no, this would not be acceptable, but I personally prefer the Apollo Soyuz of eBay rather than the one inside the OMEGA bulletin board
@padders
He’s peeved that he has an AS that might actually be made from real parts from the original Italian distributor, which is not part of the 500. Obviously there is no way Omega will give it an extract proving its one of the official ones as it is not one of the 500 official ones. This is what peeves him.
He has enough info to make an argument there are “real”’ones outside the 500 made from spare parts. But getting Omega to recognize it is a lost cause, for obvious reasons to everyone but him.
Now he’s being inconsistent as he praising the value of the obviously questionable one on eBay while saying it’s not real but supporting the price while saying fakes are bad...
@padders
He’s peeved that he has an AS that might actually be made from real parts from the original Italian distributor, which is not part of the 500. Obviously there is no way Omega will give it an extract proving its one of the official ones as it is not one of the 500 official ones. This is what peeves him.
He has enough info to make an argument there are “real”’ones outside the 500 made from spare parts. But getting Omega to recognize it is a lost cause, for obvious reasons to everyone but him.
Now he’s being inconsistent as he praising the value of the obviously questionable one on eBay while saying it’s not real but supporting the price while saying fakes are bad...
dear Foo2rama,
I'm not irritated, I'm sorry to disappoint you!
I'm still taking my steps with OMEGA and if I do nothing, at least I'll say I tried
but I do not want to talk about it, this is another matter!
I am not praising the price reached, I am only very surprised that someone can spend € 17,000 for a watch so little appreciated or perhaps, as you say a probable fake watch!
to complete the reasoning, I add the fact that yours and my doubts (because I have them too) have had no effect on the auction, indeed. This is the point!
the rest you say are just mental saws 🤨
