Advice on 105.003 dial

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I might add that the rise in price for lower quality examples is in my view entirely fueled by dealers, or wannbe delalers.

They often bought on the tick box method, losing sight of the idea that the watch has to actually look nice and tug someones heart strings - all too often the dealers margin destroys this attraction.
 
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As ever its down to price.

Not everyone wants a $30,000 Ed White, perfect and correct in every way. There is always going to be compromise.

I would also suggest that it is possible to have an enjoyable Ed White with major issues if its cheap enough. My everyday wearer Ed White is a relumed, failed extract example, that might make $7,000 on open auction with full disclosure, but it gives me more pleasure that some recent EW's sold at auction for 15,000 to 22,000 would.

So as with all the similar threads, its important to know the price in order to arrive at a conclusion based on the price/attractiveness ratio.

Fine quality costs a lot of money - there is no short cut, unless you steal it.

However I believe there are a huge number of watches that can offer great pleasure for a price that is a long way from the top level. It just the sellers are not yet ready to come to terms with what the market values them at.

I think the sellers of medium watches are finding out that in order to sell they are going to have to be realistic. With that in mind, this watch might be good to have at a low price, but I suspect the seller has unrealistic expectations. (Because most do at the moment).

A fine watch warrants and will achieve a fine price, perhaps more than last year. As an aside none of the B&M auctions I have looked at in the last 12-18 months has sold a fine example.

A watch with issues is going to sell for less than it did 12 months ago. Sometimes much less.
Thanks for your feedback!
 
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Hands definitely repainted. Not sure which circle this is referring to, the circular texture inside the sub-dials?
I think it's a light reflection
 
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Hands: Relumed and repainted. Paint is not evenly applied.
Dial: Relume, just look at that index at 1 how sloppy it is.
 
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I'll echo what others have said, and whilst I wouldn't rule out a relumed dial/hands (if done well, and an attractive colour - I'm not a fan of butterscotch/coffee mix with added gloss), the price would most certainly have to reflect this.

Why not indicate the asking price? That way, as said, people's thoughts would be more relevant to the issue of value for money.
 
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Hi guys, thanks again in advance for sharing invaluable knowledge!

I am still in the quest for my first Speedie, and came across this Ed White below.
Watch was delivered to Mozambique, and I guess that explains the tan on the plots and brownish body (sorry for the lousy pics, the stains are on the plexi, not the dial). Would you place the dial and bezel on Speedmaster101's scale as "Good"? Case is a bit worn but I do not have pics.

Thanks a lot for your thoughts!
I like the dial, bezel and the case but have some doubts about the hands.
 
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Hi guys, same topic, different watch: do you think the dial below has been relumed? Again, thanks in advance for your invaluable insight and help!

 
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Looks like they've used the same lume as in the other watch... 🍿

Not only that, but the "T Swiss Made T" looks weird. Could be the curvature of the Hesalite, but it looks to me that its crashing intl the second markers.
 
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Looks like they've used the same lume as in the other watch... 🍿

Not only that, but the "T Swiss Made T" looks weird. Could be the curvature of the Hesalite, but it looks to me that its crashing intl the second markers.
That's probably OK, this looks like one of the dials that had the T added to the dial later because of the change in the law, ca. 1964/65
 
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My first guess is that the application of the lume actually looks too clean. Most Ed White watches I have seen tend to be a bit more wobbly on the lume plots. you rarely see a perfect rectangular shaped lume plot. the end points towards the dial center tend to be more curved.
But that's only my personal observation, I might be wrong as I surely didn't handle all Ed Whites out there 😉
 
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How does the lume react under UV light and after removing the light source?
 
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Hi guys, same topic, different watch: do you think the dial below has been relumed? Again, thanks in advance for your invaluable insight and help!

Not the best photo... and would not be a photo to make a final decision on a buy or not.

The dial:
- To me the dial looks to have been relumed as there are quite some bumps in the lume. Please note that wobbly lume can be totally fine.
- Scratches in the chrono subdials
- It also look quite "dry" with the lighter color around the subdials and the step.
- I think I can see uneven bumps in the base of the dial that to me is not attractive.
- Seems that there might be missing some print on the dial but could be scratches on glass. More angles and better photos are needed to valuate.

Other:
- I believe that the hands lume are correct however, the chrono hand is not correct for this reference.

Photo with the observations:
Edited:
 
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Looks like they've used the same lume as in the other watch... 🍿

Not only that, but the "T Swiss Made T" looks weird. Could be the curvature of the Hesalite, but it looks to me that its crashing intl the second markers.
Thanks!
 
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How does the lume react under UV light and after removing the light source?
It looked ok, consistent, but will try to get a photo
 
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Not the best photo... and would not be a photo to make a final decision on a buy or not.

The dial:
- To me the dial looks to have been relumed as there are quite some bumps in the lume. Please note that wobbly lume can be totally fine.
- Scratches in the chrono subdials
- It also look quite "dry" with the lighter color around the subdials and the step.
- I think I can see uneven bumps in the base of the dial that to me is not attractive.
- Seems that there might be missing some print on the dial but could be scratches on glass. More angles and better photos are needed to valuate.

Other:
- I believe that the hands lume are correct however, the chrono hand is not correct for this reference.

Photo with the observations:
Thanks a lot, very helpful!
 
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Really hard to say but the pushers look quite big, might be the light/angle making them look bigger?
 
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I think I like the first watch better. At the right price I could live with the relume. Plus it has the bracelet and correct chrono hand.
 
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It looked ok, consistent, but will try to get a photo
Keep an eye on the decay time after removing the uv light
 
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Keep an eye on the decay time after removing the uv light
Thanks, will do!