Advice needed Omega Seamaster calendar 2849 sc 1 cal 503

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Good evening everyone. I would like to buy this watch. It s about 2 hours from where I live. Please let me know if 800 euro is a good price for it. For sure I have to add on top 250 € for a service on top. Many thanks regards.
 
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If the Omega needs parts, you might be a bit optimistic about the cost of servicing this watch. Hopefully someone might come along that can comment on the availability of parts for this model. Speaking personally, I wouldn’t spend my money on that calibre of movement.
 
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If the Omega needs parts, you might be a bit optimistic about the cost of servicing this watch. Hopefully someone might come along that can comment on the availability of parts for this model. Speaking personally, I wouldn’t spend my money on that calibre of movement.
 
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Hi thanks for you advice. So better stay away from this. What caliber do you recommend for the seamaster line?
 
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The watch looks original and in age appropriate condition for a 60 year old watch. The movement photo is not particularly helpful.

Are you buying from a dealer or a private seller. In both cases, they should tell you how the watch runs and if they know when, if ever, it was serviced.

If it’s a dealer, he may be prepared to give a warranty or agree to accept the watch back in certain circumstances. You might be able to have your watch repairer check out the condition.

Whether dealer or private, you should be able to negotiate the price. See what similar watches have been sold for on eBay, send the photos to your watch repairer and a) get his view on condition and b) his estimate on service.
 
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The watch looks original and in age appropriate condition for a 60 year old watch. The movement photo is not particularly helpful.

Are you buying from a dealer or a private seller. In both cases, they should tell you how the watch runs and if they know when, if ever, it was serviced.

If it’s a dealer, he may be prepared to give a warranty or agree to accept the watch back in certain circumstances. You might be able to have your watch repairer check out the condition.

Whether dealer or private, you should be able to negotiate the price. See what similar watches have been sold for on eBay, send the photos to your watch repairer and a) get his view on condition and b) his estimate on service.


hi there, it's a private seller, the watch need a service, that s what I ve been told.
 
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I think the watch overall looks good - but hard to say about the movement. Since it’s a private seller, 800 is a bit much IMO. Maybe try and see if he or she will accept 600.
 
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Watch looks nice and original to me.
I own one of these, working well, and I didn't have any particular problem when I had it serviced.
 
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I’d buy it too. Canuck routinely slags anything off with a 50X movement for some reason. Maybe he had a bad experience with one. My experience has been rather more positive. Yes there are parts availability issues and a couple of weak spots in the design but no more so than with the preceding bumper models, they are rather less troublesome than those in fact IME.

Parts issues exist for nearly every Omega model outside of the authorised network these days so to single out the 50X series seems a little unfair IMO. A poorly 552 or 565 can also create headaches.
 
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ALSO BE AWARE THAT THE ROTOR HAS BEEN RUBBING ON THE CASEBACK SO THAT WILL NEED TO BE ATTENDED TO AT EXTRA COST AS WELL (IF IT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN DONE).

(Damn, had CAPS on! 😡).

You can see the rubbing evidence (red arrows) and the rotor bushing / axle that needs replacement (blue arrow).

 
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ALSO BE AWARE THAT THE ROTOR HAS BEEN RUBBING ON THE CASEBACK SO THAT WILL NEED TO BE ATTENDED TO AT EXTRA COST AS WELL (IF IT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN DONE).

(Damn, had CAPS on! 😡).

You can see the rubbing evidence (red arrows) and the rotor bushing / axle that needs replacement (blue arrow).



Hi thanks for pointed out. Is that an expensive part to repair?
Regards
 
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You can see the rubbing evidence (red arrows) and the rotor bushing / axle that needs replacement (blue arrow).

Not likely the axle, and most likely the pinion (bushing). Those are discontinued, and I have managed to find some on the open market. The 3rd wheel is also discontinued and often needs replacing. The mainspring is discontinued, along with a bunch of other parts.

Generally anything older than the 550 series has parts discontinued, so the 500 series are no different in that respect.

I wouldn't necessarily discourage people from buying these, but they should be aware that parts are not likely going to be as readily available as they are for newer calibers.
 
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Not likely the axle, and most likely the pinion (bushing). Those are discontinued, and I have managed to find some on the open market. The 3rd wheel is also discontinued and often needs replacing. The mainspring is discontinued, along with a bunch of other parts.

Generally anything older than the 550 series has parts discontinued, so the 500 series are no different in that respect.

I wouldn't necessarily discourage people from buying these, but they should be aware that parts are not likely going to be as readily available as they are for newer calibers.

Just a follow up question regarding rotor rub in general:

We often see evidence of rotor rub on the inside of the back case and of course on the rotor itself. AFAIK the rotor doesn't need replacing whilst addressing this issue, just the pinion. It isn't possible from a photo to see the play in the rotor when the pinion is worn and needs replacing, but my WM has shown me that ( on numerous occasions ) when we have a watch in hand. Would I be correct to say that it also isn't possible to tell from a photo whether or not the pinion issue has been previously addressed/replaced when all I have to go at is are pictures of a rotor with rubbing and evidence of rotor rub on the case back?
 
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Just a follow up question regarding rotor rub in general:

We often see evidence of rotor rub on the inside of the back case and of course on the rotor itself. AFAIK the rotor doesn't need replacing whilst addressing this issue, just the pinion. It isn't possible from a photo to see the play in the rotor when the pinion is worn and needs replacing, but my WM has shown me that ( on numerous occasions ) when we have a watch in hand. Would I be correct to say that it also isn't possible to tell from a photo whether or not the pinion issue has been previously addressed/replaced when all I have to go at is are pictures of a rotor with rubbing and evidence of rotor rub on the case back?

It depends. It's often clear that the damage is current from debris that is present, but sometimes the debris is not there, so you don't know for sure until you check it in person. You check it like this:


Sometimes there is no evidence of any rubbing, yet the rotor still has a ton of play in it, and the pinion needs replacing. Remember, when servicing a watch "properly" you don't look at how it is right now, but how it will be for the next 5 years or so. So if it's just barely okay now, it won't last 5 years down the road. But this depends on how your watchmaker does servicing...
 
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Wow so much information. I think I gonna stay away from vintage. I thought it would be much easier for replacement parts. It s a nice watch but I don't want to get in "trouble" 🙁
 
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Wow so much information. I think I gonna stay away from vintage. I thought it would be much easier for replacement parts. It s a nice watch but I don't want to get in "trouble" 🙁
No reason to be that scared away. It all depends on the watch and the movement. If the movement is sourced from someone like ETA or Schild, there may be more parts available. Vintage hand winds are a lot simpler and of course you wouldn't have the same issues in the automatic system because there isn't one.

It's a matter of selecting exactly which vintage watch you're comfortable buying.
 
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Wow so much information. I think I gonna stay away from vintage. I thought it would be much easier for replacement parts. It s a nice watch but I don't want to get in "trouble" 🙁
I wouldn’t let the above comments discourage you from purchasing the watch. These are extremely knowledgeable members getting into the weeds a bit. The watch you’re looking to purchase is all original and quite nice. And I would think budgeting 250€ should certainly be sufficient to overhaul/service the movement. I’d buy it!
 
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To be frank - I think we all would