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if you have recourse to do so (I.e. it was described as all original) then my advice would also be send it back.

I have sent the seller an email and pointed out the deficiencies with the watch.

Awaiting his response.

I think that if the seconds hand can be replaced with a suitable one, I'd be content to put up with the other deficiencies.
 
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Too late to get your money back? That it's a total franken job should be enough....
 
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I think that if the seconds hand can be replaced with a suitable one, I'd be content to put up with the other deficiencies.

I wouldn't. You bought a chronometer and it doesn't have a chronometer movement in it. That alone is reason enough.
 
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I wouldn't. You bought a chronometer and it doesn't have a chronometer movement in it. That alone is reason enough.

Ordinarily, I would agree, if this purchase was made with the intent of selling it when I tire of it.

I don't intend to sell the watch.

I've been assured that it has received a thorough service.

In the circumstances............
 
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Write this off as a bad job. There are many issues here. Firstly it has had a movement swap which is an immediate red flag, as above, the watch ain't what it claims on the (repainted) dial. That too is a big drag on the charm and value. The observatory medallion on the back is a Constellation signature and all but worn away there. There should be 8 stars in that cloudy sky. The bracelet is wrong too, hence the terrible fit at the lugs. The movement is in fact about 2-3 years younger than the watch and looks pretty grubby and worn. I could go on but I wont.

There are multiple reasons why this watch will just annoy you long term when you learn what a good one looks like and when you do finally decide to shift it on or swap for a better one you will have jokers like us slagging it off.
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Ordinarily, I would agree, if this purchase was made with the intent of selling it when I tire of it.

I don't intend to sell the watch.

I've been assured that it has received a thorough service.

In the circumstances............
You're a lot more accepting of what is likely fraud than I would be.
 
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Newbies like us have only 2 options: either to pay a premium for a nice example on a dealer or on the FS section (the well priced ones go in a flash), or; to settle with « not to nice/poor » examples...

I know now that I prefer the 1 option. You took the second one... no crime there
 
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I'd message the seller before they ship it, asking them not to bother because it'll only be returned 'not as described' if they do.
 
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There are also a couple of Constellations up in the private sales thread 👍
 
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There are also a couple of Constellations up in the private sales thread 👍
But you must know which ones.
 
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Write this off as a bad job. There are many issues here. Firstly it has had a movement swap which is an immediate red flag, as above, the watch ain't what it claims on the (repainted) dial. That too is a big drag on the charm and value. The observatory medallion on the back is a Constellation signature and all but worn away there. There should be 8 stars in that cloudy sky. The bracelet is wrong too, hence the terrible fit at the lugs. The movement is in fact about 2-3 years younger than the watch and looks pretty grubby and worn. I could go on but I wont.

There are multiple reasons why this watch will just annoy you long term when you learn what a good one looks like and when you do finally decide to shift it on or swap for a better one you will have jokers like us slagging it off.

I love your candid response.

Thank you for pointing out the deficiencies with this piece.
 
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There are also a couple of Constellations up in the private sales thread 👍

Yes, seller @nanjingcigaretes has some lovely watches.

But they're beyond what I want to spend at this juncture.
 
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I'd message the seller before they ship it, asking them not to bother because it'll only be returned 'not as described' if they do.

I have.

We're in the process of trying to work out a compromise.

If we can't, he's confirmed that he's happy to refund my payment in full.

I admire that in a seller.
 
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I have.

We're in the process of trying to work out a compromise.

If we can't, he's confirmed that he's happy to refund my payment in full.

I admire that in a seller.

Take them up on their offer of a repayment.

If I can focus your mind for a minute:
With the soft lugs, repainted dial (with missing minute haches) , broken seconds hand, obliterated medallion and incorrect movement (with a replacement rotor) this is a (max) $500 watch.

Get you money back and look for something worth the hard-earned money that you are willing to put down.
 
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Yes, seller @nanjingcigaretes has some lovely watches.

But they're beyond what I want to spend at this juncture.
Are you sure? One has case back problem, I think.
 
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I love your candid response.

Thank you for pointing out the deficiencies with this piece.
I apologise if I sounded unsympathetic but in your replies it sounds like you are talking yourself into keeping it, maybe after a part refund. I was trying to impress on you that it is best to walk away altogether here as it has few saving graces. You might not care about how straight it is now but if you get into vintage watches then you certainly will in future. Vintage Omegas are a gateway drug, people rarely stop at one. The first one people buy without doing their homework is known around these parts as 'Noob Tax'. This watch falls squarely into that category and at $1,100 it wont be one of the cheaper ones.
 
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Newbies like us have only 2 options: either to pay a premium for a nice example on a dealer or on the FS section (the well priced ones go in a flash), or; to settle with « not to nice/poor » examples...

I know now that I prefer the 1 option. You took the second one... no crime there

Option 3 would be to spend a few days on OF, going through the old threads and get to know the reference you are hunting inside out - then be patient, stalk the less crowded hunting grounds and then pounce when the moment comes 😀
 
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Option 3 would be to spend a few days on OF, going through the old threads and get to know the reference you are hunting inside out - then be patient, stalk the less crowded hunting grounds and then pounce when the moment comes 😀


Thank you for the sage advice.

The more time I spend on the subject, the more confused I tend to get.

There are just so many variants of the Constellation................

I plan to spend a lot more time researching though.
 
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I apologise if I sounded unsympathetic but in your replies it sounds like you are talking yourself into keeping it, maybe after a part refund. I was trying to impress on you that it is best to walk away altogether here as it has few saving graces. You might not care about how straight it is now but if you get into vintage watches then you certainly will in future. Vintage Omegas are a gateway drug, people rarely stop at one. The first one people buy without doing their homework is known around these parts as 'Noob Tax'. This watch falls squarely into that category and at $1,100 it wont be one of the cheaper ones.


You are spot-on with your observation.

I have been collecting watches a while, but vintage Connies are very difficult to get my head around, due to the variants available out there.

I like the 'Noob Tax' reference too 😀

Thank you for your contribution to my inquiry.
 
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The more time I spend on the subject, the more confused I tend to get.

There are just so many variants of the Constellation................

I plan to spend a lot more time researching though.

I would agree if you are looking at all Constellations
But if you have set your heart on a dogleg then the variations (and what to look for) become much simpler