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omegaman
·As one of the first series of 1969 Gold Apollo tribute Speedmasters, I believe there should be a number on the caseback 😕
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Adolf Brandle's BA145.022-69 for sale
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omegaman
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SpeedyPhill
·Good point, but getting an expensive EoA one should expect to get some more information about the watch, which is after all an expensive Gold Apollo Tribute chronograph... Can't believe Omega HQ doesn't have a complete & detailed listing of all VIP who received such a Gold Apollo tribute Speedmaster !
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Evitzee
·Good point, but getting an expensive EoA one should expect to get some more information about the watch, which is after all an expensive Gold Apollo Tribute chronograph... Can't believe Omega HQ doesn't have a complete & detailed listing of all VIP who received such a Gold Apollo tribute Speedmaster !
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SpeedyPhill
·@Evitzee
Omega HQ has more info in the archives than we can imagine... in 2017, when I visted the Bienne HQ, I was eager to point out some "firsts" about Omega Speedmaster chronographs being used in spaceflight missions. As their focus lay with "60 years Speedmaster", there wasn't immediate interest as it didn't suit into their international marketing strategy, so I decided to write a series of articles myself on the Alaska II Project Speedmasters being used in the Soviet-Russian space program and Alaska III Project Speedmasters onbaord the early 1980s space shuttle missions. By January 2019, Omega HQ confirmed they have information about the Alaska II Speedies on Soviet-Russian side and promised the #SpeedyTuesday community to bring out more details as workschedule & time allows...
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Omega HQ has more info in the archives than we can imagine... in 2017, when I visted the Bienne HQ, I was eager to point out some "firsts" about Omega Speedmaster chronographs being used in spaceflight missions. As their focus lay with "60 years Speedmaster", there wasn't immediate interest as it didn't suit into their international marketing strategy, so I decided to write a series of articles myself on the Alaska II Project Speedmasters being used in the Soviet-Russian space program and Alaska III Project Speedmasters onbaord the early 1980s space shuttle missions. By January 2019, Omega HQ confirmed they have information about the Alaska II Speedies on Soviet-Russian side and promised the #SpeedyTuesday community to bring out more details as workschedule & time allows...
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eugeneandresson
·Sorry for the resurrection ... but I wondered how much this one sold for ... 34k CHF.
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bazderome
·Sorry for the resurrection ... but I wondered how much this one sold for ... 34k CHF.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...German last name and associated with the Space Program with no data available about him? I think the answer is somewhat obvious.
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queriver
·German last name and associated with the Space Program with no data available about him? I think the answer is somewhat obvious.
Before making insinuations, you do realise over 60% of Swiss are native German speakers? And...
An Adolf Brandle was the President of the Swiss Benevolent Society of New York from 1970-1971.
http://www2.hsp.org/collections/Balch manuscript_guide/html/sbs_nyc.html
The name also comes up as a representative of the Union Bank of Switzerland, New York in 1969.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CRECB-1969-pt28/pdf/GPO-CRECB-1969-pt28-5-1.pdf
.. so, on face value, if it's the same man, he's almost certainly Swiss.
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Iceter
·“Insinuation” implies that he is suggesting something underhanded and is not an appropriate word to use here, IMO.
it is well known that the American missile and space programs used the services of many German expatriates after the war. Werner Von Braun brought well over a hundred with him in Operation Paperclip alone. There were many others who wound up being brought into the US outside of Von Braun’s patronage. There were also many Jewish scientists in those programs who emigrated before the war.
It is not insinuation to suggest that an exceptionally GermanIc name (first AND last) associated with the space program might be a German.
That being said, the “Von Braun Boys” are pretty well documented and Brandle is not among them.
it is well known that the American missile and space programs used the services of many German expatriates after the war. Werner Von Braun brought well over a hundred with him in Operation Paperclip alone. There were many others who wound up being brought into the US outside of Von Braun’s patronage. There were also many Jewish scientists in those programs who emigrated before the war.
It is not insinuation to suggest that an exceptionally GermanIc name (first AND last) associated with the space program might be a German.
That being said, the “Von Braun Boys” are pretty well documented and Brandle is not among them.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Before making insinuations, you do realise over 60% of Swiss are native German speakers? And...
.. so, on face value, if it's the same man, he's almost certainly Swiss.
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mr_yossarian
·The US space program is not as squeaky clean as it wants to admit. At best Von Braun’s back ground is problematic at worst He is someone who didn’t care about human lives as long as his science was funded. V2’s took a lot of British lives, not to mention the slave labor lives lost used to make the rockets.
Dora Mittelbau in the Harz Mountains..thousands lost their live there drilling the Facilities into the Mountains. They all came from Concentration camps. My Grandmother never talked too much about that and my Grandpa neither, he happend to work for von Braun and he had seen these things for sure, just like von Braun.
The US Army arrived there somewhen March/April '45, they took most of the plans, employees and rocket parts to the South ( Bavaria) first, then the employees up to a small village in Hessen, including von Braun, my Granddad and the others.
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queriver
·The US space program is not as squeaky clean as it wants to admit. At best Von Braun’s back ground is problematic at worst He is someone who didn’t care about human lives as long as his science was funded. V2’s took a lot of British lives, not to mention the slave labor lives lost used to make the rockets.
I know all this which is why I made my comment. You know it too so why did you cast aspersions on a man who is/was most likely a Swiss citizen as if he were likely involved in the wartime German rocket programme just because his name is German origin and received that gold Speedmaster? You drew a very long bow particularly when another forum member had already established a Swiss link to that name. Swiss business is a “club” and I’d be very surprised if the representative of such an establishment bank as UBS in 1969 were not Swiss.
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Iceter
·I don’t remember anyone suggesting that the watch belonged to the UBS guy. IIRC, he was one of a couple people with that name that popped up in a google search. No link at all was made between him and the watch other than he had that name and was alive during the same period as the watch was made.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...I know all this which is why I made my comment. You know it too so why did you cast aspersions on a man who is/was most likely a Swiss citizen as if he were likely involved in the wartime German rocket programme just because his name is German origin and received that gold Speedmaster? You drew a very long bow particularly when another forum member had already established a Swiss link to that name. Swiss business is a “club” and I’d be very surprised if the representative of such an establishment bank as UBS in 1969 were not Swiss.
Well it seems to be based on space, and we know many of these where gifted to NASA employees.
On the other hand... I’m not sure how a Swiss Banker of that age is much better... in fact a lot of people would say that’s worse then a German rocket scientist.
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befobe
·I like these recurrent posts... 😜😜😜
---------- "The Return of Adolf B. " -----------
Yes... you guessed, he's back!
https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en...er-apollo-xi-lot-335-212?page=1&q=speedmaster
---------- "The Return of Adolf B. " -----------
Yes... you guessed, he's back!
https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en...er-apollo-xi-lot-335-212?page=1&q=speedmaster
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befobe
·96000Eur hammer today!...
How is it possible?... 😲😲😲
How is it possible?... 😲😲😲
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