About Omega buckles

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Hello everyone,
thank you for this thread. A huge source of valuable information in the age of today’s online noise.
I’m attaching a few pictures of mine Omega 18K (750)16mm buckle. It’s quite polished, but it stil holds up. Manufacturer: AW, total weight: ~3g.

I assume that kind of buckle would have been fitted to my watch originally (early '50s 2451 in 18k), haven't managed to find an picture yet.
 
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Hi buckle-buddies, here's one for you.
I have skimmed through its hefty 62 pages, but apologies in advance if this has cropped up already.
I'm looking to source a gold-plated buckle from c.1970 (and a SS one from the late 60s, as it goes) and I stumbled across the attached.
To my untrained eye it seems to fit the period and doesn't look like a knock-off. But it lacks any markings on the underside.
Why would a counterfeiter not attempt to fake everything an original would have?
Or is it maybe a variant specific to a regional manufacturer? (I'm in the UK.)
Secondly, what do we thing about gold replating? A big no-no, even if the plating's worn through? Or OK to bring it back to life?

Thanks for thoughts.

Hey, I just saw this, and these are what I believe to be German market buckles - I bought quite a bit of them recently from Germany. Then researched and came to this conclusion

You can stumble onto them easily if you look for 8mm 10mm buckles from Germany, since they are aged and appear with other authentic parts I didn't question their authenticity - there are 2 styles for the logo - you can't find larger ones on eBay

In 14mm and 16mm they are rare in the wild, out of 100 buckles in my collection, I only had 1 of them prior to this big find. Second reason why I believe they were market specific buckles

Their middle pins have a characteristic ridge in the middle, it almost looks like a facet but its from manufacturing

Another example is Japan, where they marked their local market buckles with "STAINLESS STEEL" / "GOLD PLATED" only

 
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Hey, I just saw this, and these are what I believe to be German market buckles - I bought quite a bit of them recently from Germany. Then researched and came to this conclusion

You can stumble onto them easily if you look for 8mm 10mm buckles from Germany, since they are aged and appear with other authentic parts I didn't question their authenticity - there are 2 styles for the logo - you can't find larger ones on eBay

In 14mm and 16mm they are rare in the wild, out of 100 buckles in my collection, I only had 1 of them prior to this big find. Second reason why I believe they were market specific buckles

Their middle pins have a characteristic ridge in the middle, it almost looks like a facet but its from manufacturing

Another example is Japan, where they marked their local market buckles with "STAINLESS STEEL" / "GOLD PLATED" only


Ah, that's reassuring to know. Thanks for posting this Kaan.
 
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Hi OF. Some gold Omegas I recently bought came with this buckle. I tried to ID it through this thread, but couldn't after many pages. I tried to Google image search it and actually identified another Omega buckle as 18k through this thread (the French PFG one). But this one stumped me. It's a "B" marked Banda, but the 18k gold hallmarks are on the outside. Any ideas? Fake or real?

 
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that's great thread! i have actually lightly passed through every single page.

as for a question i have: seen this design only 4 times on the thread, not too common; the shape, logo and "Stainless steel (30)" had been connected to Japan in some way (?) and from the 60's.
it looks genuine to me: the used, old condition, the overall geometry and shape, the fat and ugly spring bar, and the stamps being stamps and not laser.
is it genuine? and what is the matter with Japan? some batches that beared that stampings were made for export to Japanese market / locally made there and hence there's no "Swiss" on it?

i guess this one would be considered "correct" for a Seamaster 165.002 cal.552 from 1965?
PS: the buckle is 14mm.

thank you!

 
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that's great thread! i have actually lightly passed through every single page.

as for a question i have: seen this design only 4 times on the thread, not too common; the shape, logo and "Stainless steel (30)" had been connected to Japan in some way (?) and from the 60's.
it looks genuine to me: the used, old condition, the overall geometry and shape, the fat and ugly spring bar, and the stamps being stamps and not laser.
is it genuine? and what is the matter with Japan? some batches that beared that stampings were made for export to Japanese market / locally made there and hence there's no "Swiss" on it?

i guess this one would be considered "correct" for a Seamaster 165.002 cal.552 from 1965?
PS: the buckle is 14mm.

thank you!

Do you want 14 mm strap size? It will need to be custom. If you get 16 mm which is more common you will have wide choice for straps.
This one is also rather beaten up take your time find better one with proper markings.
 
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Do you want 14 mm strap size? It will need to be custom. If you get 16 mm which is more common you will have wide choice for straps.
This one is also rather beaten up take your time find better one with proper markings.
Thank you for the reply. The point is that i do have a 14mm strap i like and thats the one that was in fair price for that size. It also fits the condition of the watch, not necessarily in that degree but the watch is worn. Hence it was kind of my choice.
But what would be your 2 cents regards the authenticity?
 
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Many thanks @omegastar for the great article! This was so informative.
Thanks to this and your reply I know i just bought a fake buckle (read the article a little too late). I’m in the process of reporting the seller and get my money back and would really appreciate a few more voices to strengthen my case. Much appreciated.

 
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Hi OF. Some gold Omegas I recently bought came with this buckle. I tried to ID it through this thread, but couldn't after many pages. I tried to Google image search it and actually identified another Omega buckle as 18k through this thread (the French PFG one). But this one stumped me. It's a "B" marked Banda, but the 18k gold hallmarks are on the outside. Any ideas? Fake or real?

late response but the B apparently stands for Boucledor (buckle and bracelet manufacture in Geneva). As for authenticity no idea.
 
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Hopefully not too far off topic... How should I date these three buckles?


From left to right:
1. Might not even be original, although I think it is. I have no idea where it originated from.
2. Came to me as part of a 166.009 first owner piece, probably made in '67.
3. Came to me on a 135.017 Technical dial watch which based on the serial is probably made in '65.

My feeling, though, is that the third (right) one is more recent, rather 70s, or 80s? Is the middle one indeed a mid 60s buckle?
 
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While it’s murky to try to date these precisely I would say:
1. Not sure but would guess earlier, 60s
2. Agree prob mid 60s
3. Late 60s early 70s

Do you have photos of other sides?
 
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While it’s murky to try to date these precisely I would say:
1. Not sure but would guess earlier, 60s
2. Agree prob mid 60s
3. Late 60s early 70s

Do you have photos of other sides?

Thanks!

And sure. Here’s the three of them in the same order.
 
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All look good to me. Sometimes people don’t like it when Acier and Inox are not clearly separated (top one a bit close together) but I would accept top one as original. Big fat springbar also good sign of original.