A warning - you morons and do it yourselfers

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And when they are done scratching it, they add their signature to make it perfect:
(Damn Crooks')

Imagine if it had said "B Aldrin"... 😉
 
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There's no way I'd open up a modern watch like that. Even if you do get it open without causing irreparable damage, how will you reseal it and pressure test it to 10bar ? The pleasure of looking at the movement just doesn't justify all the downsides IMO.

Anyway, professional pictures of modern JLC movements aren't too hard to find - JLC themselves will probably send you some if you ask.

Well, I don't actually need it to withstand any underwater pressure - all of my watches, modern & vintage, are very well taken care of. Still, you're probably right - I know it's nuts to open a modern watch, especially with all these proprietary case-opening mechanisms. Gonna be a ton of fun getting them serviced in 50 years' time for sure!

Maybe I'll stop by the Jaeger-LeCoultre boutique on Madison - been meaning to for a while now anyway - and see if they can do it. I'd like to see it in person - movement photos are one thing, but witnessing it operating in person is a whole other experience!
 
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Well, I don't actually need it to withstand any underwater pressure

I know what you mean. It's just that if you have any future issues with it, especially any moisture or fogging inside the crystal, they'll be voiding the warranty & charging you for repairs quicker than you can blink 😜
 
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I know what you mean. It's just that if you have any future issues with it, especially any moisture or fogging inside the crystal, they'll be voiding the warranty & charging you for repairs quicker than you can blink 😜

Yep! Warranty void is really the only reason I'm not actually pursuing this 😀 2 years from now, though....
 
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Anyone even contemplating opening a watch without the right knowledge and proper tools - watch out - I am going after you. And anyone who proposes the use of pliers, vises, etc to noobs asking for advice will be hunted down.

If you need to open your watch for any reason - take it to a real watchmaker. Not a jeweler, the pawnshop or to your uncle who tinkers with watches. You do not take it to the guy in the mall who changes batteries in watches - and makes keys - and fixes your shoes while you wait.

This is my 18k rose gold, 14381, Connie. Looks great does it not? Almost perfect. Probably a one owner watch and almost not used.

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Well... An idiot tried to open it and look what he did:

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I bought it anyway but just some days earlier the caseback was pristine. If I could just get hold of that person...

My cal 354 Seamaster Chronometre:

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Before cleaning but you get the picture...

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My 20357 Polerouter:

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There are other ways to ruin a caseback. Someone thought it was OK to use a perlon strap and then let the dirt and sweat dig in for years - 18k rose gold GL Connie:

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All these watches are in almost top condition except for the caseback. Due to morons, do it yourselfers and idiots.

Please post your own examples to deter people from doing this - and selfproclaimed experts encouraging it.
I don't know what a "perlon strap" is, but it looks like it causes bumps like hail damage. Shame.
 
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Is that nut and superglue a real thing? Or did I fall for something. Looks frightening.

Any experience with the Horotec equivalent of the 5700?
 
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Greetings, all.. My first post here. Had to. Body cheese will forever be in my vocabulary now. I joined to try to find information on an Omega Constellation I inherited from my dad. Probably bought in the 70's. Knowing dad, the heavy gold band is a custom job. Woven with a green gold diamond pattern into it. And I'm wearing it, letting it wind up.. already learning the battery? should be taken out.. been in a Crown Royal bag since 1996. And I'm looking at that band.. thinking... well, at least it's just my dad's body cheese. I'll be looking up watchmakers here, real soon. Thanks for the wealth of information!
 
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This rule applies to pretty much anything, watches included. Some folks just have no skills with their hands, then never having the right tools or good enough eyesight multiplies the catastrophe. Any one of those three on there own is bad enough. There is also great wisdom in knowing when to STOP and backup which is where the specialists are needed.

Having said that, if somebody buys a watch and wants to monkey around on it and potentially wreck it due to lack of the necessary attributes and tools then why not? Its theirs, so let them do what they want with their stuff.
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The minute I hear the phrase wrist cheese I shiver.

I have had a tissot pr516 opened up by a twit and scratch the crap out of it.
I resurfaced the flat but am not good enough to try the curved. He left a massive scratch from one side to the other right across the middle.

If I can’t open one with the ball, I take it to my watch maker who has the right tool to get it done. I only ever had to do one myself that the ball wouldn’t open.
I put the case in the case holder and put it all in the bench vice. Then put the caseback tool in the grooves, applied pressure to the top with one hand and while holding the handle twisted my hips. It cracked the seal and came loose with a satisfying snap. But it was scary enough to make me not try it again.
 
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I was feeling noobyfication when I realized I'd reopened a dead thread.. Had to laugh at dear ole Gene.. But happy others are responding to it. I have to ask.. and no, I am not remotely contemplating using it, the ball just sucks the back off? Clearly I know precious little about Omega Constellations, but I'm scouring threads trying to learn. And the pics of the case carnage are horrifying. Keep em coming!
 
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I was feeling noobyfication when I realized I'd reopened a dead thread.. Had to laugh at dear ole Gene.. But happy others are responding to it. I have to ask.. and no, I am not remotely contemplating using it, the ball just sucks the back off? Clearly I know precious little about Omega Constellations, but I'm scouring threads trying to learn. And the pics of the case carnage are horrifying. Keep em coming!
The ball works like using a rubber glove to help get the lid off a jar- gives some grip. It doesn’t always work if it’s really stuck on there though.

Also, keep the ball really clean. The oils from your hands can cause it to slip. Use isopropyl to clean the ball and make sure your hands are freshly washed
 
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This pre-moon turned up on Antiques Roadshow a few weeks ago. They valued it at £8k due to a. an incorrect bracelet and b. its condition. As you can see, some dilwit has repeatedly tried to take the caseback off with a pair of scissors at some point in the past… 🤦
 
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The ball is great. It really can open some tight caseback and seals them with the right amount of tension. It’s my go to.
 
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If at first the scissors don't work.........



Then just get in there with the hammer and cold chisel!