A Shout-out to my Watchmaker

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Diluted water? What like err water? 😉
Sorry, not english native.

Yes, I meant distilled water.

Some clean dials rinsing it with distilled water. However, it removes the lacquer paint of the dial and who knows how it will look in the future 😀
 
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I follow a few watchmakers and you'd be surprised how well it can work in the right situations.
Rodico is to be used with caution. Rodico often leaves a residue which is the reason why many service centers of major brands don't use it. Definitely not on modern dials.
 
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Rodico is to be used with caution. Rodico often leaves a residue which is the reason why many service centers of major brands don't use it. Definitely not on modern dials.

I agree which is why I said in my first response that I'd "probably rub the paint right off" and that I wouldn't try but rather leave it to the pros. I was merely answering a question with a possible scenario on how the OPs dial was cleaned. Another member said that rodico wouldn't clean that dial wich is why i posted a pic of a dirty dial being cleaned with rodico. With that said the actual watchmaker chimed in and stated he in fact did rodico the dial........

Just to be clear I'm not rodico'ing mine or anyone elses dial lol. Have no fear, I will not be ruining any watches any time soon.
 
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Just to clarify, this is what most brands approve for cleaning dials, meaning removal of loose debris from dials:



These cleaning sticks have a small blob of what I think is urethane at the tip, and clean dials very gently without leaving any residue behind. The blue pad is also sticky and is used to clean the tips of the sticks. This system works very well and I use it daily.

The basic Rodico (the green one), Rodico "Premium" (which is grey), or A*F's product called Rub-Off (which is blue) and any similar products are all forbidden by Omega and other companies for use on movements, dials, or hands as they leave a residue behind. I've said this before, but one of the first things the instructor at Omega did when I was their for training was tell anyone in the class who had this type of product in their tools to leave it there, because they don't allow it's use, and if you were caught using it you would fail the course.

Just to show some not so good outcomes with watchmakers cleaning dials, these were sent to me by very upset watch owners to ask my advice on what to do, and why a watchmaker would even think of cleaning the dials they sent them. This one was washed...removed some lume and generally made a mess of it:



This one was fully printed when sent away, but the watchmaker dipped the dial in "solvent H" to remove dust from the dial, something he says he does on every dial and is standard practice (it isn't). The result was loss of most of the dial printing, and to make matters worse, he didn't even mention it before sending the watch back, so the owner got quite a shock when he opened the parcel:



So in the case of the OP's watch, yes it turned out okay. I suspect the lacquer was removed, and if none was applied to replace it it's unclear how long the dial will stay nice, but overall it turned out about as good as these things do. But the risks of doing this can't be overstated, and IMO should always be done in consultation with the watch owner.

Cheers, Al
 
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I gave a friend of mine (who works on watches- not a watchmaker) two basket cases to experiment with using the lemon juice trick. The first, the dial was almost orange with funk, came out beautifully like the OP. It removed the lacquer and left all printing intact and revealed the stunning silver sunburst beneath. The lume was gone but a small price since it was a mess before. The second didn’t go as well using the exact method- the lacquer came off in big chunks taking half the minute track and dial text with it- a total loss.
That said- same friend will use the gel tips like archer to clean the dial surface and metallic indices. Years of fine moisture and migrating decay of materials can make the dial dull and lifeless. A gentle dry clean can make a huge difference.
It’s all about the right tools in the hands of someone with experience.
 
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Eventhough he did a good job, i'd never bring another watch there if that happened to me.

Doing anything to a watch I brought in for repair or service, except for maybe polishing the glass, without discussing it with me first would be a big no no.

What if you really liked the patina on that dial and you wanted to keep it that way?
 
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Just to clarify, this is what most brands approve for cleaning dials, meaning removal of loose debris from dials:


These cleaning sticks have a small blob of what I think is urethane at the tip, and clean dials very gently without leaving any residue behind. The blue pad is also sticky and is used to clean the tips of the sticks. This system works very well and I use it daily.


The cleaning sticks and blue pad are also what I use. They work quite well. When the little sticky ball at the end is gone or no longer sticky(and then removed) the plastic stick works good to decant oil out of the bottles into the oil pots. The sticky sticks are all we use on dials at the AWCI. We have used solvent H on some date discs before.
 
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The cleaning sticks and blue pad are also what I use. They work quite well. When the little sticky ball at the end is gone or no longer sticky(and then removed) the plastic stick works good to decant oil out of the bottles into the oil pots. The sticky sticks are all we use on dials at the AWCI. We have used solvent H on some date discs before.
Gotta know what “solvent H” is, if it’s like “enzymatic solution #1” used in art conservation- then I totally get it 😀
 
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Gotta know what “solvent H” is, if it’s like “enzymatic solution #1” used in art conservation- then I totally get it 😀
"enzymatic solution number 1" being saliva?
 
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"enzymatic solution number 1" being saliva?
Oh my- you would never say that in front of the client 😗
 
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Oh my- you would never say that in front of the client 😗
...after eating a chocolate biscuit and sipping coffee....😲
 
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Gotta know what “solvent H” is, if it’s like “enzymatic solution #1” used in art conservation- then I totally get it 😀


Chemical characterization: CH3-(CH2)5-CH3 = C7 H16, n-Heptane
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Chemical characterization: CH3-(CH2)5-CH3 = C7 H16, n-Heptane
Thank you @Archer and Google- Heptane is a component in gasoline.... makes perfect sense as a solvent.
 
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...after eating a chocolate biscuit and sipping coffee....😲
You have clearly worked with art conservators.
 
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I’ve heard of baby oil being used to clean dials but it’s usually someone mentioning it secondhand on a forum (just like I am now). Always been curious if that is a legit way to clean a dial and how it’s done/used.
 
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You have clearly worked with art conservators.
Guilty as charged....I am among the fraternity of OCD nutters!!😀
 
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Guilty as charged....I am among the fraternity of OCD nutters!!😀
Then in addition to the chocolate biscuit and coffee in ES#1 is nicotine from the smoke break and an Altoid to cover their coffee/cigarette breathe. 😗
 
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Then in addition to the chocolate biscuit and coffee in ES#1 is nicotine from the smoke break and an Altoid to cover their coffee/cigarette breathe. 😗
...the magic elixir::stirthepot::. Removes anything (only joking)...I only drink distilled water when working, honest.
 
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...after eating a chocolate biscuit and sipping coffee....😲

That's how Tropical Dials are made Tropical......