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A quick "How To" for members who are selling watches.

STANDY
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How about a new rule. No bump without a price drop. 馃槜馃槜馃槜

I've got a listing I'm putting up slowly 馃槈
 
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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
IMO, members should be above commenting publicly on prices.

Price / value is a huge part of this hobby. We're asked about it by members every day. There's no way to avoid it. I don't think comments on price should be done in the actual sale listing, but if a member asks, are we supposed to ignore the question?
 
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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
IMO, members should be above commenting publicly on prices. As long as the seller only posts/bumps once a day I can't see the issue - it is much worse on other fora so I won't complain.
I wouldn't mind this. I know that if I price a watch and I'm asking too much, I'd be open to correction from the collective.
 
ConElPueblo
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Price / value is a huge part of this hobby. We're asked about it by members every day. There's no way to avoid it. I don't think comments on price should be done in the actual sale listing, but if a member asks, are we supposed to ignore the question?

Good point, my statement only concerned comments in sales listings. I am sure a lot of the established members besides myself often advise others via PM, more rarely in open threads.


jimmyd13 jimmyd13
I wouldn't mind this. I know that if I price a watch and I'm asking too much, I'd be open to correction from the collective.

Me too, but the few rules we have about sales posts on OF says we aren't allowed to in sales listings.

What is not tolerated at all!
  • Using other peoples photos in ANY advert is strictly prohibited & will mean the advert being pulled and your selling privileges revoked and a possible ban.
  • Public bashing of someones price. Remember its their item and they can sell it for whatever price they deem fit or they think its worth regardless if you/we agree its worth that.

I've made a comment about the sales rules and how they are governed here: https://omegaforums.net/threads/private-sellers-watches-for-sale.76769/#post-975045
 
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It's currently at $2 in this thread, but I know of somebody who's aching to own it. 馃槻

Ain't that right, @gatorcpa and @cicindela? 馃槣
Hey I got overheads. I got staff to pay. I gotta eat. I can go to $3 but that's the top. These things don't sell fast.
 
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I too despair at watches priced at double their realistic value in Private Watch Sales.

This is not an exaggeration. I was wearing a particular watch yesterday, and I happened to see the same model for sale in Private Sales for nearly twice its value. And actually, the one for sale is not quite as desirable as mine because it's quite a bit later.

People should be able to set their prices as they want, and I wouldn't suggest trying to regulate this, but I do feel it demonstrates a lack of conscience on the part of the seller. That's what bothers me. Although I'm new on this forum, I can certainly feel the sense of community here, and I like the way that many members contribute to a variety of threads, both technical and social. So when someone lists a watch at an outrageous price, it feels anti-social. I could use a stronger word, but I won't.
 
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This is not an exaggeration. I was wearing a particular watch yesterday, and I happened to see the same model for sale in Private Sales for nearly twice its value. And actually, the one for sale is not quite as desirable as mine because it's quite a bit later.

People should be able to set their prices as they want, and I wouldn't suggest trying to regulate this, but I do feel it demonstrates a lack of conscience on the part of the seller. That's what bothers me. Although I'm new on this forum, I can certainly feel the sense of community here, and I like the way that many members contribute to a variety of threads, both technical and social. So when someone lists a watch at an outrageous price, it feels anti-social. I could use a stronger word, but I won't.

It all points back to the point I made in that other thread I linked to; if we could comment freely (and hey - the rules pretty much allows us to, but the moderators enforce this differently!), this wouldn't happen nearly that much.
 
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when we see model A in the Private FS section, pre owned/used for couple of years and then you see the same model in the Dealer鈥檚 section, being advertised as BNIB, never worn and with full OEM warranty for a couple of hundred $ less than the pre owned, then someone is not pricing their watch at a fair market value...
 
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Okay guys and gals, I'm going to use a few examples. First off, I found @STANDY and @GuiltyBoomerang mentioning this thread in their listings:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/vintage-diver-sperina-203-26.40795/#post-987479

https://omegaforums.net/threads/194...n-6b-159-white-dial-600usd.77420/#post-987523

This is kinda funny, because both of them started with what I believe are very reasonable prices to begin with. 馃憤

Second, I'll admit to everyone that this is the listing that I alluded to with the picture of Frankenstein:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/ohpf-price-reduction-omega-railmaster-135-004-63.77304/

@jens0125 - kudos to you for being honest about all details and imperfections, including that the lollipop hand was most likely not original to the watch, and making significant price adjustments to move your watch. I don't blame you for trying your initial asking price given what original Railmasters have been selling for lately - I just thought it was a little aggressive knowing that this wasn't in the same league. I also liked that when you added that you found a 1963 caliber 286, you said it was "correct" for your watch, without mention of the word "original". 馃憤 I think your buyer got a very fair price.

Dan S Dan S
I could use a stronger word, but I won't.

We're all adults here - you can use whatever words you wish! Go all George Carlin if you must. 馃が
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propervinyl
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It's currently at $2 in this thread, but I know of somebody who's aching to own it. 馃槻

How about $2 and a bag of cheetos.

Squirrels like cheetos more than pepsi.
 
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To me, overpricing a watch here is not very problematic: people know (or should) what they're looking at, and often times watches priced very highly are beautiful examples that end up selling. Overpricing on eBay, at a dealer's shop or on craigslists is much worse as far as I'm concerned, because you're not looking for the top collector who will pay top $ for a top example, you're looking for an idiot.

Plus, the whole concept of overpricing is really subjective: there is one market value and then there are prices. We all have our own price for a given watch: how much would you pay for it ?
 
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Was just thinking, everyone seems ready to jump on members who "overprice" their watches. Does anyone give them advice to raise the price if (heaven forbid) they have priced it below what someone thinks it's worth. Or do they just snap it up without any qualms?
 
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First off, I found @STANDY and @GuiltyBoomerang mentioning this thread in their listings:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/vintage-diver-sperina-203-26.40795/#post-987479

https://omegaforums.net/threads/194...n-6b-159-white-dial-600usd.77420/#post-987523

This is kinda funny, because both of them started with what I believe are very reasonable prices to begin with. 馃憤

I'm flattered by this comment. Perhaps the connection that we're both Aussies and prefer doing things to appease others is quite noted amongst our upside down country 馃槻

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Was just thinking, everyone seems ready to jump on members who "overprice" their watches. Does anyone give them advice to raise the price if (heaven forbid) they have priced it below what someone thinks it's worth. Or do they just snap it up without any qualms?

I believe I have seen one or two threads where members have wondered why the seller has not increased the price, which the seller has then promptly done or has just left it as is.
Another one I saw I'd say it got snapped up just as I was responding to it. It all depends on how the forum members want to approach it, because after all, if the seller is happy with the price gained, then they should have no qualms over what the buyer does next.
 
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This is one of the friendliest places to sell and there are more rules here than almost any other place. Most pieces are being sold by forum members with a real presence here and are given a decent description and often are some of the best examples of a reference.

I think it would be a shame if people here feel uncomfortable putting up watches because they are nervous they will be outed in another subforum for their price or another detail of their listing (like wanting "net to me"). I'd rather watches come up here overpriced than elsewhere, because honestly I'm not comfortable dealing on other WIS sites and if something is too expensive I just don't have to buy it. (Bumping those watches for months on end - while modestly annoying - really doesn't happen all that much, relatively speaking).

All I'm saying is the private listing forum is an already modestly regulated sales platform -- and I think it functions 10x better than any other platform out there.
 
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I do wonder whether something like 5 bump/drop limit maybe the be answer to get thing moved and free up P1 otherwise it becomes moribund and full of stale White Elephants. Or a month time limit to bump. It would encourage more realistic pricing or at least speed up the inevitable drops. We can all be guilty of optimism or ignorance when it comes to selling but bumping for months is the market telling you you got the price wrong.

STANDY STANDY
How about a new rule. No bump without a price drop. 馃槜馃槜馃槜

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You'd think by the 15000th view and hundredth bump they'd get the message...

this... the endless daily (or several times a week) bumping for no other reason than the fact that daily bumping is allowed is annoying me more than the silly pricing. If something is priced silly, and no bumping is allowed without a tangible price drop, that item will fall in the depth of the BST section.

Bumping daily is forum pollution in my eyes. Just because you have the guts to humiliate yourself in front of everyone by bumping daily with no (significant) price drop when your stuff isn't selling doesn't mean you should be allowed to be priorized on my screen over ads from more considerate and/or new sellers.

Note that you'd be more than welcome to bump daily, as long as you drop your price daily, too! Not by $50 on a $5K watch, this is in accordance with the word, but not the spirit of the law...

Can we please have some bumping-rule framework put together as it looks like the forum is ripe for a better bump-control framework: https://omegaforums.net/threads/bumping-fs-threads-daily-ish-with-petty-or-no-price-changes.44901/c 馃槜

Thanks in advance to all the considerate OF staff willing to swim against the tide of useless-and-too-frequent bumps 馃憤

Paul
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