3861 New Style Speedmaster Bracelet Fitted on 1861 Case (Pictorial)

Spikedlee

Hey guys. So I picked up the new hesalite 3861 over the weekend and got a bunch of questions from people if the new style bracelet will fit on the old style 1861 case.

Because I own both watches, I decided to perform the bracelet swap to answer the question and show you guys the fitment. To skip the long story, the answer is YES the new bracelet will fit the old 1861 case with no problem. I used the spring bars that came with the 3861 for this exercise and the end link fitment seemed almost perfect.



Please see the below shots:

This is a back shot of the new 3861 case with bracelet mounted:



Here is the 1861 on TOP and the 3861 on BOTTOM:




Here are some side-by-side case comparisons of both watch cases (1861 on left 3861 on right):






You can see how the side profile lug shape is different on the 3861. You will also notice the 3861 case height is slimmer.

And BEHOLD, here we have the 3861 bracelet mounted on the 1861 case:







And here is this configuration on my wrist:







I estimate Omega to charge $800+ for this new 3861 bracelet independently should you want to purchase this as a separate item to upgrade your 1861 case. The alignment of this bracelet to the case is pretty much perfect from what I can see and wears quite comfortably, although I personally still prefer the Ed White flat link bracelet and may actually opt to wear that on my 3861 instead.

Best of luck to all of you on your decisions to either invest in a 1861 or new 3861. Either way you cannot go wrong but I hope this pictorial will help you regardless.

Cheers,

M

G GannyBall

That's going to be a game changer for alot of people

stevec14

Looks like the end links are completely the wrong depth for the 1861 case to me.

just for clarity, are you saying the Apollo 11 (not Ed white as it’s 19mm) bracelet and end links won’t fit on the new 3861 speedy?

It will be a mystery what will fit the snoopy in that case. It will depends whether the case is the same as the Apollo 11 or the new 3861 speedy....I thought they were the same.....

Spikedlee

That is correct. The holes in the case for the 3861 are higher than in the 1861 so positioning will not work with the springbars and end links.

Spikedlee

That is correct. The holes in the case for the 3861 are higher than in the 1861 so positioning will not work with the springbars and end links.

nicolamilton

Apollo 11 is 3861 case, as Snoopy.

D dcl_88

Does the end links fit in snugly, or does it rattle?

D deozed

Hey man, first of all thanks for doing this. I’m sure a lot of people are curious to know how it’ll fit the older case.

One question, though. In one photo it looks like the curvature of the endlink lines flush with the curvature of the lug at 7/8 o’clock, yet in another photo it looks like there’s a bunch of space showing from the inside of the lug at 4/5 o’clock. Is this just the lighting or am I seeing that correctly?



Thanks,

D

angschte

@Spikedlee, thanks for all the insights and pictures.

Can you maybe comment on D's question below? I am wondering the same looking at the images.

Thanks a ton,
Fabian