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Archer
··Omega Qualified Watchmaker
I had to smell it all day long when the machine used to be beside my drawing board back in the 80’s...not fun!
321 back in production ! prelude to the 50th anniversary Apollo 11?
I had to smell it all day long when the machine used to be beside my drawing board back in the 80’s...not fun!
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pIoNeErOfThEnILe
·it seems like everything they're going to do with this watch reads like a big fail.
i mean,..seriously..do they really need to add another watch to their lineup?
limited but not limited edition...lol.....
what's going to happen is that it's going to be overpriced and not special for a basic steel, and it will be available at will.
special but not special.
i mean,..seriously..do they really need to add another watch to their lineup?
limited but not limited edition...lol.....
what's going to happen is that it's going to be overpriced and not special for a basic steel, and it will be available at will.
special but not special.
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g-boac
·I really appreciate what Omega is doing here. Reissuing the calibre Ω321 is terrific. This will enable the production of THE actual true moon watch again, using THE actual movement flight-qualified by NASA for the moon landings. No ifs, ands, buts, or asterisks about it. It would also be terrific Ω321 finds its way into other chronograph movements for Omega, but perhaps and most likely it remains Moonwatch Only.
Is the Ω321 the most technologically advanced watch movement in the world TODAY? Maybe not. But then again, while the Apollo lunar module computer might not be able to keep up with an iPhone - it landed on the moon!! (As did the 321 movement inside Speedmaster!)
Is the Ω321 the most technologically advanced watch movement in the world TODAY? Maybe not. But then again, while the Apollo lunar module computer might not be able to keep up with an iPhone - it landed on the moon!! (As did the 321 movement inside Speedmaster!)
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elmar2001
·The movement is not limited and we will see it in more than one watch. But it is complicated to build and so the quantity will be small and probably that will be made by the prices of the watches
EditM this was referred to an older post, thought it was the last one. Sorry🙁
EditM this was referred to an older post, thought it was the last one. Sorry🙁
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentHeh, I remember when a 5.25 inch floppy disk going bad would wipe out days worth of work. Then we moved to 3-1/2 inch disks, and a bad one could wipe out 2 weeks of work 😁 (luckily by that time the PCs came with hard drives, even if they were so small there was virtually no storage space after loading the OS and programs)
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g-boac
·Heh, I remember when a 5.25 inch floppy disk going bad would wipe out days worth of work. Then we moved to 3-1/2 inch disks, and a bad one could wipe out 2 weeks of work 😁 (luckily by that time the PCs came with hard drives, even if they were so small there was virtually no storage space after loading the OS and programs)
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Mongooseman
·Haha, early on, I think it was around 1986 or so as the 3.5" floppy was starting to become prevalent, I heard more than one person refer to them as "hard disks", which of course, they were not!! But the rigid plastic shell, compared to the "floppy" shell of the 5.25" floppy disk must have thrown off the casual observer.
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Emiel
·Ok, apart from the descisions our beloved Omega made, what do you guys think will be the effect on prices for vintage 321's?
They live in Omega Speedmasters, but also (and even earlier) in Seamasters, and the rest of the Lemania 2310/2520 powered bunch?
I, myself, figured that, if I'd ever want one, now was the time to get one before they'll skyrocket....(pun intended)
Vintage Seamasters with the 321 already fetch more than €4000 in good condition. (e.g. ref. 145.006-66)
Thoughts? Opinions?
Thanks!
Kind regards,
Bart
P.S.: I've found mine, but not Omega branded.
They live in Omega Speedmasters, but also (and even earlier) in Seamasters, and the rest of the Lemania 2310/2520 powered bunch?
I, myself, figured that, if I'd ever want one, now was the time to get one before they'll skyrocket....(pun intended)
Vintage Seamasters with the 321 already fetch more than €4000 in good condition. (e.g. ref. 145.006-66)
Thoughts? Opinions?
Thanks!
Kind regards,
Bart
P.S.: I've found mine, but not Omega branded.
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M'Bob
·Ok, apart from the descisions our beloved Omega made, what do you guys think will be the effect on prices for vintage 321's?
They live in Omega Speedmasters, but also (and even earlier) in Seamasters, and the rest of the Lemania 2310/2520 powered bunch?
I, myself, figured that, if I'd ever want one, now was the time to get one before they'll skyrocket....(pun intended)
Vintage Seamasters with the 321 already fetch more than €4000 in good condition. (e.g. ref. 145.006-66)
Thoughts? Opinions?
Thanks!
Kind regards,
Bart
P.S.: I've found mine, but not Omega branded.
An interesting question, but there are still many unknowns. Will the parts interchange? If yes, then maybe it could affect the price negativity, as people will scavenge less, and worry less about parts. On the other hand, the re-introduction could bring more awareness to the beginning collector market, which could then potentially generate more interest in a vintage cal 321.
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Emiel
·An interesting question, but there are still many unknowns. Will the parts interchange? If yes, then maybe it could affect the price negativity, as people will scavenge less, and worry less about parts. On the other hand, the re-introduction could bring more awareness to the beginning collector market, which could then potentially generate more interest in a vintage cal 321.
Well, if you can get a true c. 321 at €4000 -- €4500, as a vintage collector I would prefer this option above buying the new one (at a higher price) and your argument also holds also for the new (young) vintage collector with less disposable income....no?
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simonsays
·I think it depends on how the re issue is received. If it is popular then it will create extra interest in the original. If it is not, then no change. It can be a slow burn.
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Screwbacks
·omega has never marketed both 321 and 861 at the same time in the past. that's why speedmaster has a transitional model. in all likelihood, it will never happen in the near future.
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g-boac
·I think the overall trend will be for all 321s to continue rising upward, especially if parts are interchangeable or mostly interchangeable for vintage movements. The net result would be that vintage movements would again be supported by Omega and assuring their sustainability in the long term (including parts for independent Omega-qualified watchmakers).
Vintage pieces pricing would be based on what the watch is worth - Speedmasters probably the highest, although vintage Seamaster and others would sell with pricing commensurate with their condition and appeal.
Vintage pieces pricing would be based on what the watch is worth - Speedmasters probably the highest, although vintage Seamaster and others would sell with pricing commensurate with their condition and appeal.
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Evitzee
·Over thirty years ago I visited the Maritime Museum in Greenwich and all four of Harrison's timekeepers were on display and running. I actually watched one of the museum curators wind Harrison's H4 pocket chronometer, the one that won the Longitude prize. Then they eventually realized that by constantly running them they needed more work and more parts replacing, and that eventually they would no longer be original. So now they only run on occasion. Same is true for the original 321 movement.....the older they get the more wear and tear they receive, by repairing them with new, 2019-era parts (if they even fit) the further they go from being original. This will bother some people and others not at all, but I see a lot of emphasis on ALL original parts, dial, lume, and untouched cases for vintage Speedmasters. This recreated 321 will never see mass production, Omega never said it would. It will be in a series of high priced homage pieces later this year and the years to come.
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