22430 "Hermann Göring" Compax

waXology · May 21, 2016

Very interesting piece up for auction.....with a somewhat solid history and provenance. Could you ever wear it with that name on the back?

Non-magnetic case, reverse cover numbered "804383" and "22430", above numbers engraved signature "Hermann Göring". Requires cleaning, clockwork starts. Name engraving technically skilfully performed and presumably carried out at Göring's request in Nuremberg prison as a personal gesture for Lt. Jack Wheelis. Together with the poison capsule and a pair of gloves (also a Göring present to Wheelis) extensively described in the chapter "Göring's Spectacular Suicide" in John K. Lattimer, Hitler and the Nazi Leaders - A Unique Insight into Evil, on pages 101 - 108. Apart from pictures of the watch itself there is also - on pages 102/103 - a photograph of Wheelis wearing this watch on his wrist as well as the inventory list of Göring's personal items stored in the luggage room with this watch ("1 wristwatch / stop watch") mentioned on 10th position.

http://www.invaluable.com/catalog/v...Ref=40A4F608E3&scp=c&ri=1&wtchLt=true&isBin=0

Mr Bing · May 21, 2016

That's one hell of a piece of history there.

He was an evil bastard for sure! Would I wear it? Yeah.

Greatpa · May 21, 2016

Mr Bing
He was an evil bastard for sure! Would I wear it? Yeah.

One mean MF, indeed 😡

littlesheep81 · May 21, 2016

Fascinating and thanks for the heads up on this app too... Yet another tool to feed the watch addiction. 😵‍💫

waXology · May 21, 2016

littlesheep81
Fascinating and thanks for the heads up on this app too... Yet another tool to feed the watch addiction. 😵‍💫

Invaluable is brilliant for aggregating all the auctions. Otherwise will never hear about a lot of this stuff.

Larry S · May 21, 2016

I would not own it. It would be a huge dis to my Jewish friends even if I never told them about it. Still it is a drool worthy watch that sadly was on the wrist of a monster.

jfwoodman · May 21, 2016

Interesting. Looks every bit the evil bastard in his mug shot. I would not put it on my wrist.

littlesheep81 · May 21, 2016

Will be interesting to see how much it fetches...

Northernman · May 21, 2016

Can't blame the watch for what the previous owner did. And as I do not believe in vodoo either I guess it would be OK for me to wear it.
But it would still bring mixed emotions.
If someone on the other hand bought it as a fan-boy item.,,, :whipped:

littlesheep81 · May 21, 2016

Northernman
Can't blame the watch for what the previous owner did. And as I do not believe in vodoo either I guess it would be OK for me to wear it.
But it would still bring mixed emotions.
If someone on the other hand bought it as a fan-boy item.,,,

I was scrolling through the other auction items... It's kind of disturbing to think where the motivation for the "collection" originated from in the first place.
Although there was some more redeemable items such as items related to the Nuremberg trials...

ahartfie · May 21, 2016

Couldn't possibly own it, even though it's a beautiful watch.

I have family German government documents with swastikas on them and they are SPOOKY as all hell to physically hold. I do have them scanned and online. Google Translate has been very helpful.

88cut · May 23, 2016

I know about this watch. It was given away just before he committed suicide.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1483081/I-gave-Goring-his-poison-pill-says-American.html

Geordie · May 23, 2016

military memorabilia is a huge collectors market and this will fly over estimate imo. Personalty I would be more interested in the buyer rather than the watch.

DeltaRomeo · May 23, 2016

2000-2400$ is a ridiculous estimate for this piece. A piece whitout historical interest would fetch more, and a watch involved in Göring suicide has intrinsical historical value, even their former propietary. The estimate for the brass container of the hydrogen cyanide phial is 20000-30000$. It is much more reasonable that the estimate of the watch.

I only would understand the estimate if the provenience of the watch is not clear.

Dgercp · May 23, 2016

Honestly, I would buy it, take a sledge hammer to it and then bury it in dog shit.
But, that's just me.

Willem023 · May 23, 2016

Mr Bing
That's one hell of a piece of history there.

He was an evil bastard for sure! Would I wear it?

nope

Kwijibo · May 23, 2016

Is next one Anne Frank's ?. I find that cynical. It makes this watch not attractive

Northernman · May 23, 2016

It's a mechanical watch. Not an object of worship or the bastards testies.
Personally I would be able to own such thing as I love the watch (except for the tasteless tag on the back).
I would also have been able to tell people I showed it to what monster that once owned it, and what he did that should never be done again.
If we don't learn and teach history it will most likely repeat itself.

To be honest I hope it is bought by some museum.

Kwijibo · May 23, 2016

I can't see any interest for a museum to own HG's watch. I mean it has no historical importance. it'as not like a signed paper with historical importance.
What annoys me most is these things a collected by neo nazi pricks.

gatorcpa · May 23, 2016

Northernman
To be honest I hope it is bought by some museum.

That is where it belongs. Maybe somewhere like the Holocaust Museums in Washington, DC or Los Angeles. If for no other reason than to keep it out of the hands of someone who would worship the evil ideas of the former owner.
gatorcpa

22430 "Hermann Göring" Compax

waXology

Mr Bing

Greatpa

littlesheep81

waXology

Larry S

jfwoodman

littlesheep81

Northernman

littlesheep81

ahartfie

88cut

Geordie

DeltaRomeo

Dgercp

Willem023

Kwijibo

Northernman

Kwijibo

gatorcpa

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