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·And I do think that the photos posted of the watch originally did not have these dial issues
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·There does seem to be a difference between the listing photos and micro shots the Op posted, especially at the 9:00 index. You can make out the issue at 3:00 on the original listing pic but you have to be looking for it.
I think most members here would have mentioned these issues in the listing to avoid any problems down the road.
I think most members here would have mentioned these issues in the listing to avoid any problems down the road.
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·Ok, I looked at the listing. Although it says no returns, there is a qualifier.
"Sellers may be required to accept returns for items that are not as described. Learn more about your rights as a buyer."
Now the not as described is open to interpretation. Ebay tends to side with the buyer in these cases. If you are thinking of returning the watch, I would start with the buyer and see if he will or won't except a return. I have on two occasions excepted returns from buyers when my listing said no returns.
You have a legitimate claim in my opinion, the watch is not as described.
"It’s condition is very good."
Thanks for checking, yes I agree it was never stated that there was damage to the dial and it couldn’t be seen in any of the listing pictures. The angle needs to be just right for the damage to be evident so it needed really to be mentioned in the listing.
I’ve emailed the seller politely stating this so I’ll see how it’s received.
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·And I do think that the photos posted of the watch originally did not have these dial issues
Hmm, I don’t know. I did zoom in on the original pictures and pushed up the brightness and the damage is just about evident. Certainly everything matches up with what I received (case scratches etc all in the same place).
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·There does seem to be a difference between the listing photos and micro shots the Op posted, especially at the 9:00 index. You can make out the issue at 3:00 on the original listing pic but you have to be looking for it.
I think most members here would have mentioned these issues in the listing to avoid any problems down the road.
Yes, that seems like the most honourable thing to do. I guess though the seller may never have noticed the damage himself, though I don’t see that necessarily makes it acceptable.
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·Sellers know exactly what they are selling…Don’t let some ‘vague description’ deceive you
Sadly …It happens here as well, on the Private Sales forum…so ‘Truth Avoidance’ without actually telling lies… is endemic
The watch is not as described…get your money back
Sadly …It happens here as well, on the Private Sales forum…so ‘Truth Avoidance’ without actually telling lies… is endemic
The watch is not as described…get your money back
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·Hmm, I don’t know. I did zoom in on the original pictures and pushed up on your the brightness and the damage is just about evident. Certainly everything matches up with what I received (case scratches etc all in the same place).
Well, I didn't see any defects on your original pictures and still can't find them there. Otherwise I wouldn't have recommended option #3.
I feel sorry for your problem and I hope it will be fixed your way.
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·Boy, I don’t know:
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·Well, I didn't see any defects on your original pictures and still can't find them there. Otherwise I wouldn't have recommended option #3.
I feel sorry for your problem and I hope it will be fixed your way.
I’m thankful for the recommendation you gave and see no way you could have seen the damage without the right light shining on it and then zoomed in closely on that area.
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·You know what you are talking about...
Did you and @OMEGuy have a fight or something? Rapid fire snark reply to much of what he's said in the last 48hrs.
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·Did you and @OMEGuy have a fight or something? Rapid fire snark reply to much of he's said in the last 48hrs.
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·Ralf does not like me. I offered him that we should meet in person to eliminate prejudices, but he did not respond.
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·Ralf does not like me. I offered him that we should meet in person to eliminate prejudices, but he did not respond.
Noted, genuine curiosity. Carry on.
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·Well seems like there is a happy ending here, on top of the learning (thanks again guys!), the seller will accept a return which is great. His reply I think is likely pretty genuine as he seemed very good to communicate with throughout:
“It’s something I’ve never noticed in 10 years of owning the watch... but looking at old photos it looks like it’s always been there, particularly as I’ve never had it serviced...”
So, the hunt continues 😀 Anyone with an exceptional example willing to part with it for the right price?
“It’s something I’ve never noticed in 10 years of owning the watch... but looking at old photos it looks like it’s always been there, particularly as I’ve never had it serviced...”
So, the hunt continues 😀 Anyone with an exceptional example willing to part with it for the right price?
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·Sellers know exactly what they are selling…Don’t let some ‘vague description’ deceive you
Sadly …It happens here as well, on the Private Sales forum…so ‘Truth Avoidance’ without actually telling lies… is endemic
The watch is not as described…get your money back
Thanks btw for prompting me to return the watch, I really wasn’t planning otherwise to try given “no returns” on the listing. It’s good to know in situations like this even on eBay you’re covered.
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·Along with purchasing option #3 I did also order option #1 as well since they had a 14 day returns policy and I thought if nothing else it would be useful to have 2 side-by-side to compare and learn from. Actually the dial on option #1 (to my eyes at least) looks very nice, except for a few tired lume spots, but certainly much better than option #3 with its damage to the dial. It also has a beautiful case with what looks like very little polished off, again compared to option #3 and also referencing the NOS pictures.
Aside from some tired lume spots, it has slightly repainted hands in place (albeit quite nicely done) and the replacement crown and bracelet, but at least both genuine.
I got it down from £2,750 to £2,300, it’s been fully serviced by Omega and comes with a 12 month guarantee.
Everything considering I’m just wondering whether you guys think its worth hanging onto option #1, or holding out for a better “all original” example?
Pictures again of option #1 (though the colours look nicer in reality):
Aside from some tired lume spots, it has slightly repainted hands in place (albeit quite nicely done) and the replacement crown and bracelet, but at least both genuine.
I got it down from £2,750 to £2,300, it’s been fully serviced by Omega and comes with a 12 month guarantee.
Everything considering I’m just wondering whether you guys think its worth hanging onto option #1, or holding out for a better “all original” example?
Pictures again of option #1 (though the colours look nicer in reality):
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