145.012 67 speedy in hodinkee shop

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@about3blank $8k is a mighty high diving board if you are just starting to swim!

I don't fault people for buying the Speedy, the Rolex sport models, or the more esoteric sport watches...I do fault those that bought the DJs. I mean come on, DJs were the most produced Rolex of all time, and can be had for half of that asking price.
 
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God, just look at the pics, damn that case had seen better days...

It's in that "uncanny valley" for Speedies for me, haha. I like em near-NOS or truly beat-up (but honest). Polished case + scuffed bezel reminds me of a botoxed up retiree partying in Vegas ::facepalm1::

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@about3blank $8k is a mighty high diving board if you are just starting to swim!

I don't fault people for buying the Speedy, the Rolex sport models, or the more esoteric sport watches...I do fault those that bought the DJs. I mean come on, DJs were the most produced Rolex of all time, and can be had for half of that asking price.

Both points very well taken. I originally had a three-year plan just to get my first 321, so yeah that diving board is indeed high as F!
 
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It's in that "uncanny valley" for Speedies for me, haha. I like em near-NOS or truly beat-up (but honest). Polished case + scuffed bezel reminds me of a botoxed up retiree in partying Vegas
I am with you, as I like them near perfect or honest, but not a shitty case polish that is worn. This brings up an interesting question, as would you rather see a shitty, worn case polish, or a corrected new case polish? ABC just did my 105.012-65 case and they worked wonders, but it looks like it let the factory.

The reason I ask is that your analogy of a botoxed retiree in Vegas makes me think of a newly refinished case, whereas this Speedy reminds me a woman who got implants in the 1980s and hasn't upgraded...weren't that great back then, and definitely not good now.
 
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I am with you, as I like them near perfect or honest, but not a shitty case polish that is worn. This brings up an interesting question, as would you rather see a shitty, worn case polish, or a corrected new case polish? ABC just did my 105.012-65 case and they worked wonders, but it looks like it let the factory.

The reason I ask is that your analogy of a botoxed retiree in Vegas makes me think of a newly refinished case, whereas this Speedy reminds me a woman who got implants in the 1980s and hasn't upgraded...weren't that great back then, and definitely not good now.

I *dream* of the true factory-fresh case polish. But it's just SO risky. Not to mention costly for someone with my lack of resources/networks. If I could get Omega to do one on my 20th Anniversary (without touching the tritium, like here: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/t...-professional-for-an-omega-authorized-service), I would.

(I wouldn't on my 145.012, because the bezel is so charmingly beat-up already, and I like wearing my worry-free 321 every other day).

For me, the point of a true NOS piece is almost as a personal museum, to showcase the strength of the watch's design: "Here is how its factory-perfection looked, exactly when astronauts got it new."

In contrast, the point of a beat up piece is almost as a personal laboratory, to showcase the strength of the watch's engineering: "Here is how its factory-perfection works, after decades of the wear and use it was made for."

Any deviations from original spec remove it from contention in both categories (which is why I personally hold both originality, and 'perfection of original condition' paramount -- I recently gave up a very scarce, all-original LeCoultre Memovox 911 with gold fluted bezel because of factory misalignments on the dial c/o 1960s US LeCoultre. It's gotta be Platonic to begin with).

From a philosophical standpoint, third-party polishing can never elevate a watch from the latter category to the former. It's no longer "as Omega made it". Which is why I dreamed of the Omega polish for the 20th. Ideally, the only *raw inputs* I want on my watches come from either the manufacture or the elements.

But from a practical standpoint, one might say that Omega of today is no longer the same people at all as Omega of 1960s, so the lines for "as Omega made it" become blurred. If a third-party provider is so well-reputed and vetted in bringing the watch to OEM spec and dimensions (and I mean perfect) that it can be said to be risk-free (which ABC sounds like, from what you're saying). Then I'd definitely consider it. Or, I mean, consider saving up for it, as if they do it up to my standards, then I defintiely can't afford it! 😁
 
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...ABC just did my 105.012-65 case and they worked wonders, but it looks like it let the factory.

PS pics or it didn't happen 🍿
 
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Back to the hodinkee watch. To me it looks like short pushers. Am i wrong here?
 
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@lando - I thought so initially too but the pushers look okay to me when I compared them to my 105.012.

Also, not sure if there are Heuer fans here but I thought the Dato 45 they had up was very well priced too given their recent sales in the +$10K range. I don't think the engraving would impact price since it was nicely done (and Jeff Stein agreed over on chronocentric).
 
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@about3blank here a few pics, still have to get humpty dumpty back together again. This case was awfully overpolished, and they resurrected it so that it now looks again like a Speedy. Once it is complete, I am going to post a thread with the before and after. It will make a nice beater 321.



 
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I think I've seen a few better ones go for slightly less on the bay. I'll never understand this Hodinkee shop and why/how it's popular. I read that they/he started by selling nato strap ?
 
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Makes me feel good about my pick up last month at approx 40-45% less. Even with a meteor bezel 😀 !

 
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Makes me feel good about my pick up last month at approx 40-45% less. Even with a meteor bezel 😀 !

Sounds like we went with the same line of thinking, haha! About the same price and about the same condition. I think we both just ducked under the 321 price tidal wave 👍
 
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Sounds like we went with the same line of thinking, haha! About the same price and about the same condition. I think we both just ducked under the 321 price tidal wave 👍

Yep and I agree with the previous posts, Hodinkee has gone from a small watch blog a few years ago to a brand selling a fair bit of merchandise.
People will definitely buy from them with a premium for the "kudos" of a Hodinkee watch.

As for me, I bought it off a small time dealer in Southend in an office above a fish and chip shop, perfect!
 
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Makes me feel good about my pick up last month at approx 40-45% less. Even with a meteor bezel 😀 !


buy my bezel smitty 😉😁