13ZN Chronographs Inquiries and Information.

Briboxkit · Sep 24, 2020

Might add that I find this thread a good source, best I found!

Briboxkit · Sep 24, 2020

DirtyDozen12
Nothing like on the dash but this site is where a lot of "common knowledge" comes from: http://watchexpertise.com/oldlonginespassion/Longines_Passion/Referenze.html Maybe I will do a thread on waterproof 13ZN references.

Thanks alot for the link. Thread on waterproof 13ZN would be very interesting

DirtyDozen12 · Sep 24, 2020

Here is a dedicated thread for waterproof 13ZNs: https://omegaforums.net/threads/waterproof-longines-13zn-references.120287/

Briboxkit · Sep 24, 2020

Just FYI. Maybe you've seen it before. Sold at Kaplans Auctions in Stockholm back in, I think 2016. It wasn't actually Kaplans who sold it. It was a pawn shop who were selling through Kaplans. That's the reason for the low estimate/starting bid. It never passed by the watch departmen. Anyway, sold for around £15.000 incl buyers premium.

Looks original/untouched regarding dial and hands doesn't it? Looks relumed to me though? Ref?

https://www.kaplans.se/sv/auktioner/3010/vara/1202204

Radiumpassion · Sep 24, 2020

Order number 23248 so it`s another black dialed «swedish» 5415

You guys always get the cool watches😉 @Briboxkit

DirtyDozen12 · Sep 24, 2020

Ah yes, I remember seeing this one. Agree, with @Radiumpassion, another ref. 5415. Dial and hands look original and I do not necessarily think that it has been re-lumed.

divetime · Sep 26, 2020

Comparing with the 5415 published in John Goldenbergers LONGINES book, I belive that the Kaplan example lume was at least replaced in parts. Just my personal opinion.

QUOTE="DirtyDozen12, post: 1608478, member: 11789"]Ah yes, I remember seeing this one. Agree, with @Radiumpassion, another ref. 5415. Dial and hands look original and I do not necessarily think that it has been re-lumed.[/QUOTE]

DirtyDozen12
Ah yes, I remember seeing this one. Agree, with @Radiumpassion, another ref. 5415. Dial and hands look original and I do not necessarily think that it has been re-lumed.

Briboxkit · Oct 2, 2020

Up and running👍. Will keep my eyes on the market for hour and minute hand. Also, will not relume the dial. I'm happy as it is. 😉

Briboxkit · Oct 2, 2020

I really like it.😎

DirtyDozen12 · Oct 2, 2020

Turned out great! I like the dial as is, too. Thanks for sharing photos of the finished product. Enjoy it!

LarryG · Oct 22, 2020

A much debated Longines Sommatore trades on the 'Bay.

Q.E.D.

alphabeta81 · Oct 22, 2020

LarryG
A much debated Longines Sommatore trades on the 'Bay.

Q.E.D.

Holy cow that seems like a great price to me. You were right on this one that the 31k wasn't a steal after all - ouch to the seller.

Mark020 · Oct 23, 2020

He will relist in a couple of days I think 😀

minutenrohr · Oct 24, 2020

I think that´s correct.
Winner of the auction:

Second high bidder:

JimJupiter · Nov 20, 2020

Finally I can add something here too and would like to hear what you think. It’s an old mono pusher 13zn with an what looks to be real old redial. Case is 34mm. Checking the serial with Longines is the next step.

Nico

DirtyDozen12 · Nov 20, 2020

Hi Nico, this is indeed a redial. Unfortunately, whether it is an old one or performed yesterday has no bearing on legitimacy. This one is quite poorly done, in terms of design and execution. I would strongly recommend passing on this watch.

JimJupiter · Nov 20, 2020

Thanks, but its allready in my possession. The price allready considered the bad redial and was maybe the price of the movement alone. So no worries. I am planning to give it to Causemann or some other redial expert until a dial pops up (which will be unlikely 😁

Radiumpassion · Nov 20, 2020

If a 13ZN monopusher ever was featured in a cartoon it would look like that😁

It will be interesting to follow this project😀 @JimJupiter

DirtyDozen12 · Nov 20, 2020

@JimJupiter In that case, enjoy. I think most people would agree that the star of any 13ZN watch is its movement. Yours looks to be in pretty good condition. I echo @Radiumpassion's sentiments, it would be neat to see how this project unfolds. Here is a nice article about a 13ZN with a contemporary case, dial, and hands that turned out very well: https://watchesbysjx.com/2020/09/laine-watches-13zn-chronograph-longines.html

Radiumpassion
If a 13ZN monopusher ever was featured in a cartoon it would look like that😁

Anything is possible: https://www.phillips.com/detail/zenith/CH080320/291/

minutenrohr · Nov 20, 2020

Hi Nico,
before you spend money, I wanted to show you a dial refurbished by Causemann, which I unfortunately bought in the nineties. I think it´s a pity for the money. The currently mounted dial is at least funny.
Greetings - HU