Forums Latest Members

13ZN Chronographs Inquiries and Information.

  1. Briboxkit Sep 24, 2020

    Posts
    22
    Likes
    39
    Might add that I find this thread a good source, best I found!
     
    Syrte and DirtyDozen12 like this.
  2. Briboxkit Sep 24, 2020

    Posts
    22
    Likes
    39
  3. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Sep 24, 2020

    Posts
    2,686
    Likes
    4,618
    minutenrohr, Dan S and Briboxkit like this.
  4. Briboxkit Sep 24, 2020

    Posts
    22
    Likes
    39
    Just FYI. Maybe you've seen it before. Sold at Kaplans Auctions in Stockholm back in, I think 2016. It wasn't actually Kaplans who sold it. It was a pawn shop who were selling through Kaplans. That's the reason for the low estimate/starting bid. It never passed by the watch departmen. Anyway, sold for around £15.000 incl buyers premium.

    Looks original/untouched regarding dial and hands doesn't it? Looks relumed to me though? Ref?

    https://www.kaplans.se/sv/auktioner/3010/vara/1202204
     
  5. Radiumpassion Sep 24, 2020

    Posts
    1,049
    Likes
    5,374
    Order number 23248 so it`s another black dialed «swedish» 5415

    F1B69F55-D26E-41E4-B981-26645B721446.jpeg

    You guys always get the cool watches;) @Briboxkit
     
  6. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Sep 24, 2020

    Posts
    2,686
    Likes
    4,618
    Ah yes, I remember seeing this one. Agree, with @Radiumpassion, another ref. 5415. Dial and hands look original and I do not necessarily think that it has been re-lumed.
     
    Briboxkit likes this.
  7. divetime Sep 26, 2020

    Posts
    471
    Likes
    1,598
    Comparing with the 5415 published in John Goldenbergers LONGINES book, I belive that the Kaplan example lume was at least replaced in parts. Just my personal opinion.
    13C11FC9-CFC7-4BFE-8EDC-4BC651B552B2.jpeg QUOTE="DirtyDozen12, post: 1608478, member: 11789"]Ah yes, I remember seeing this one. Agree, with @Radiumpassion, another ref. 5415. Dial and hands look original and I do not necessarily think that it has been re-lumed.[/QUOTE]
     
    Mark020 and hejsam like this.
  8. Briboxkit Oct 2, 2020

    Posts
    22
    Likes
    39
    Up and running:thumbsup:. Will keep my eyes on the market for hour and minute hand. Also, will not relume the dial. I'm happy as it is. ;)
     
    20201002_161922.jpg 20201002_161840.jpg
    minutenrohr, LarryG, divetime and 6 others like this.
  9. Briboxkit Oct 2, 2020

    Posts
    22
    Likes
    39
    I really like it.:cool:
     
    20201002_163646.jpg
  10. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Oct 2, 2020

    Posts
    2,686
    Likes
    4,618
    Turned out great! I like the dial as is, too. Thanks for sharing photos of the finished product. Enjoy it!
     
    Briboxkit likes this.
  11. LarryG not KennyG, not OG, just LarryG Oct 22, 2020

    Posts
    992
    Likes
    3,836
    A much debated Longines Sommatore trades on the 'Bay.
    upload_2020-10-22_18-31-46.jpeg

    Q.E.D.
     
    Radiumpassion and DirtyDozen12 like this.
  12. alphabeta81 Oct 22, 2020

    Posts
    74
    Likes
    113
    Holy cow that seems like a great price to me. You were right on this one that the 31k wasn't a steal after all - ouch to the seller.
     
  13. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer Oct 23, 2020

    Posts
    4,742
    Likes
    6,754
    He will relist in a couple of days I think :)
     
  14. minutenrohr Oct 24, 2020

    Posts
    1,884
    Likes
    23,466
    I think that´s correct.
    Winner of the auction:
    winner.JPG

    Second high bidder:
    Second.JPG
     
  15. JimJupiter Nov 20, 2020

    Posts
    1,489
    Likes
    6,499
    Finally I can add something here too and would like to hear what you think. It’s an old mono pusher 13zn with an what looks to be real old redial. Case is 34mm. Checking the serial with Longines is the next step.

    Nico


    983ED5CF-10ED-42F6-AD79-C547DA28EF82.jpeg 59FCD779-F7D9-4732-A300-67587914AA49.jpeg 93E9AE5B-FAF5-45DF-B6DE-E990B466CECB.jpeg 8725F153-DEAB-4C76-B81D-F107CAF50C41.jpeg 6CEA5E8A-0380-4873-86C1-A4D4CDD03DE8.jpeg A1364523-4D74-4F82-86AB-7D6918FA6F55.jpeg F90C7C58-E086-4680-8BD0-A1954010C1E7.jpeg
     
    Dan S and Radiumpassion like this.
  16. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Nov 20, 2020

    Posts
    2,686
    Likes
    4,618
    Hi Nico, this is indeed a redial. Unfortunately, whether it is an old one or performed yesterday has no bearing on legitimacy. This one is quite poorly done, in terms of design and execution. I would strongly recommend passing on this watch.
     
    JimJupiter likes this.
  17. JimJupiter Nov 20, 2020

    Posts
    1,489
    Likes
    6,499
    Thanks, but its allready in my possession. The price allready considered the bad redial and was maybe the price of the movement alone. So no worries. I am planning to give it to Causemann or some other redial expert until a dial pops up (which will be unlikely :D
     
  18. Radiumpassion Nov 20, 2020

    Posts
    1,049
    Likes
    5,374
    If a 13ZN monopusher ever was featured in a cartoon it would look like that:D

    It will be interesting to follow this project:) @JimJupiter
     
    JimJupiter likes this.
  19. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Nov 20, 2020

    Posts
    2,686
    Likes
    4,618
    @JimJupiter In that case, enjoy. I think most people would agree that the star of any 13ZN watch is its movement. Yours looks to be in pretty good condition. I echo @Radiumpassion's sentiments, it would be neat to see how this project unfolds. Here is a nice article about a 13ZN with a contemporary case, dial, and hands that turned out very well: https://watchesbysjx.com/2020/09/laine-watches-13zn-chronograph-longines.html

    Anything is possible: https://www.phillips.com/detail/zenith/CH080320/291/
    upload_2020-11-20_9-30-25.png
     
  20. minutenrohr Nov 20, 2020

    Posts
    1,884
    Likes
    23,466
    Hi Nico,
    before you spend money, I wanted to show you a dial refurbished by Causemann, which I unfortunately bought in the nineties. I think it´s a pity for the money. The currently mounted dial is at least funny.
    Greetings - HU
    13zn Causemann.JPG