Look at that central minute counter hand

 

Hmm. Yea I guess it would be better to send it off to Longines to restore.

 

Hi,

I'm new to the forum and would like to acquire a 13zn.
I have come across one and after reading this topic, can i conclude that the dial is original?
I have my doubts with the case, looks to new for this type.

 

Dial looks nice to me. Hands seem to be adapted...
Concerning the case not sure...

 

I just saw this watch and was a bit confused. It is a 1950’s 30 CH and the dial and hands look good to me. On the other hand the dial scales looks much too smal for the case.
This dial was not originally in this case?
What are your thoughts?

 

Other images of this watch show that the sub-dials look strange. Also, the movement shows wear that is potentially incongruous with the pristine condition of the dial. The minute counter hand is also incorrect. All this, in combination with the unusual lume plots and excess dial showing around the perimeter, suggest that something is amiss.

 

Very nice looking black dialed 13zn 35mm at upcoming Phillips auction...

 

Another "unrestored" dial!

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item number: 232978474540

 

Beautiful! Case does not appear to have been polished either.

 

Was glitter paint used for the gold font?

 

Incredible!! Bah

 

Currently looking at a 13zn to add to my collection. What do the experts think? Sandwich Dial has the brass feet, dial looks legit (no redial)?.

 

I don't think this is a redial and the serial match. dial feet are copper and not painted.

 

So the movement shows more patina than the perfect dial. No thank you. I would offer price assuming fake dial or recently created by Longines if there is paperwork to prove it.

 

Very obvious redial. Avoid this piece.

 

Are you suggesting that the watch is anything other than as described?

I think the description of the dial suggests quite a lot about the integrity of the seller.

 

Whats so bad about this watch to avoid? It looks like a nice watch. The dial looks nice. Where do you see the obvious?

 

No genuine original sandwich dial looks like this condition. Not a single sign of age. The movement shows that the watch did see moisture. It is impossible that the more delicate paint of the dial does not show any age. Also look at second hand shows rust or corrosion. How can a matching dial not show corrosion on foil? This is not the matching dial.

The dial feet is only one piece of information. Dial feet can be silver or copper. You can fake copper feet easily as it turns out.

In Jura Switzerland you can still have any dial you want made.

 

The serial number puts in in the early 40s. The print style is from the 50s. The logo does not look right. A redial.

 

Thanks! Awesome!