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  1. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Jun 14, 2023

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    Below is an example of the same reference with an original dial.

    Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CRCLgrkrLR7/
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  2. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Jun 14, 2023

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    I've seen quite a few of these in the late 1990's. Can't remember , who made this batch. Either Bethge in Germany or Soni in the UK. Not well executed.
     
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  3. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Jun 14, 2023

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    Thanks for the information!
     
  4. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Jun 15, 2023

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    You mean batch of dials? Very coarse indeed, in any event.
     
  5. Wswwatch Sep 8, 2023

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    he movement have a missing part…
     
  6. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Sep 8, 2023

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    Ah, I think you are correct.
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  7. Wswwatch Sep 8, 2023

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    yes, and It is serious problem coz the movement is the heart, all hand made without cnc,,
    even to make one now is difficult,.. and we can do it by CNC, ... however , I won't recommend to collect this piece
     
  8. Wswwatch Sep 8, 2023

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    Mr DirtyDozen , Thank you for your sharing of 3870 ref. 13zn ,

    however , It is rare model and I can't see any on sales...
    would like to collect one , coz the case size , the stepped case, and the pusher , for me is so attractive , simple and smooth ,,,
     
  9. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Sep 9, 2023

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    There are a couple for sale at the moment, that I know of. I can send a private message to you with more information.
     
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  10. Wswwatch Oct 4, 2023

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    this is not a original dial , before 1940 , the font is taller and smaller , moreover, the subdial 6 , will be close
     
  11. SWmania Apr 23, 2024

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  12. minutenrohr Apr 24, 2024

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    Yes, 6,73xxxx seems to be a correct number for a 13ZN for the French market. The stamped "M" (see picture) also supports this.

    Greetings - HU

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  13. S.H. Apr 24, 2024

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    Pretty!

    BTW I found the missing part for mine. Of course, it has to me modified to function properly, some tricky work involved...
     
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  14. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Apr 25, 2024

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    Thanks for the update.