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13ZN Chronographs Inquiries and Information.

Syrte
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chrmer3 chrmer3
here is case back pic-
Thanks for asking!! I had just listed this as a no reserve auction on Ebay (392103507863) & had forgotten to put up caseback pics!!
Great timing 😀
Thanks much, are those numbers hidden because you're afraid some scammer might steal the pictures?
If so, and for informational purposes, can you please indicate here in non photo form the missing serial numbers?
Otherwise I’m afraid your post is not “informational” and simply a for profit, promotional announcement (which forum rules forbid).
Many thanks in advance!
 
Syrte
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The reason I do not disclose serials is for fraud-
It doesn't make much sense to list full serial numbers on the internet when someone can then take a valid correct sequence and then use for dubious purposes- If it violates TOS- I apologize & you can have the post deleted. I would rather have my post removed for NOT disclosing valid correct serial numbers, then some person down the road be a victim of fraud due to serial number theft.
I hope this makes sense, there really is no reason I see of to list valid serial sequences on the internet. The end owner of any watch purchased on line may or may NOT want this information public.
You may wish to rethink your serial number policies if that is a violation of TOS. I would think its aiding fraud of making of fake cases, movements etc- when you publish unique identifying numbers... Maybe I am just paranoid because I have been a watch dealer for about 18 years and have seen rampant fraud and misuse over the years.....
Chris

Appreciate your candid reply, I'm not sure how someone can use a serial number for fraud if they don't have a picture to go with it.
There is no serial number policy here but there is a policy against posting watches for sale on this forum unless you're a member with 200 posts --or unless you get an exemption.
Not my decision however, I'm just a regular member and not speaking for forum management.
Best regards,
S
 
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That's the same one discussed above
I know. I was just mentioning what do you think the end price will be.
 
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I know. I was just mentioning what do you think the end price will be.

Admins deleted the seller’s posts so the discussion looks disjuncted. 99.99% of eBay users are unaware that you need special authorization to bid over $100k so I highly doubt it will break that ceiling.
 
Syrte
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I really wonder why he put it on Ebay instead of a major auction house. For all we know and given the insane speculation surrounding the most desirable Longines references, maybe the price would have even gone up by the time of sale.
 
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I really wonder why he put it on Ebay instead of a major auction house. For all we know and given the insane speculation surrounding the most desirable Longines references, maybe the price would have even gone up by the time of sale.
Ebay would be the last place I would put up an item like that ..I agree with proper advertising by a major auction ,the price could had been skyrocketed to sky's the limit..
 
Syrte
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Maybe he’s trying to stay under the radar and avoid some sort of scrutiny 😗
 
gemstar
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Syrte Syrte
Maybe he’s trying to stay under the radar and avoid some sort of scrutiny 😗
Quite possible.
 
TinyClown
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Just listed today on the Bay. Dial looks home made and the overall shape it terrible. Looks like they polished the movement parts for good measure.
 
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divetime
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good looking watch on Ebay - rare dial version - but dial condition not too nice...

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Curious to hear others' thoughts on this dial. To me, nothing looks especially incorrect apart from "Anti Magnetique", which looks very strange. Not only is the font not the usual one (see pic 4) but it closely resembles the font on this clearly dubious dial (pic 2). Below is another 13ZN with a similar dial to the first, sans "Anti Magnetique". The condition of the two golden dials is very impressive, if not suspicious. Lastly, a pic of a sandwich dial 13ZN with the same type of sub-dials, for comparison.
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divetime
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This dial is absolutely correct in my point of view... no doubts but to be sure I would need to see it physically..

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