Zenith A384 variants from black to caramel

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Sure but even if Zenith was the recipient they were competing against others in the bidding process. Somebody kept going against them if that were the case.[/QUOTE

There can be unusual tactics involved...the world is not always simple and transparent
 
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i have no idea whether zenith bought the watches or not. .but we have seen a few major outliers before with Zenith @ Phillips. . .it did not dramatically change market pricing. that said great a3817, a384/5/6, and of course a3818 have just been on a steady upwards trajectory for years. i think the great examples are getting very hard to find indeed
 
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Agreed, don’t think it will have any meaningful impact and a steady climbing market is always the best route forwards...

A386 prices, after being woefully undervalued for years have finally moved to a place that makes a little more sense, for one of the finest chronographs ever produced.
 
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According to Zenith's last verdict the ref. A384 variant with caramel registers and rehaut is not a separate execution but shows a faulty degradation of the black on white dial of this model. However, only the dials of one production batch have this defect which significantly differs from the normal tropical effect on the black sub dials. This is supported by my observation of a strong correlation between caramel dial, case number, and polygonal back with 14 sides (vs. 12 sides generally).

Cheers,

Mick


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Hi Mick

Nice research, I found the very same tropical effect on a small batch of serials on UG Nina Mk2, within a tight serial range. 2569x.

I wonder if the production year was the same?
 
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I too noticed those Zenith results, being that they were 4 or 5 times available market rate I wouldn’t rule out Zenith being the recipient, because I cannot think of another plausible explanation. Several tropical A384 sit on Chrono24 and remain unsold, and normal market rate (to secure a reasonably swift sale) for that one is probably £7k+ ish. Whilst buying from auction can make certain buyers pay a premium the premium seen makes zero sense, but I bet the seller is happy and unconcerned either way Reminds me of a period when there were some similar unexplainable results on Heuer Rindts, Orvis Mareographes etc etc back in 2015/2016...

the a384 on C24 are poor condition and therefore unattractive for a collector. I agree that the prices for the Phillips pieces are insane and I have no idea why minimum two bidders made that battle.