Your call....

hoipolloi · Jul 13, 2023

Dear Friends.
A seller I know has this one for sale. At first, I liked to call it a redial but after looking carefully at it, I am in doubt, now it is your call. Look at it and tell me what you think.
Regards.
Hoi.

kaplan · Jul 13, 2023

I'd put my money on redial

Edit: apart from the funky font the minute markers seemed weird to me as well

gatorcpa · Jul 13, 2023

Straight “M” in Chronometer on a 168.006? Not liking that. “Constellation” scripts looks odd also.

Compare with others like this:

https://urdelar.se/products/omega-constellation-de-luxe-nos-in-18k-168-005-6?variant=32947293454421

I’m voting redial. Engraving on inside of case doesn’t look like others I’ve seen either.
gatorcpa

Vercingetorix · Jul 13, 2023

RT in certified looks wrong.

Caliber561 · Jul 13, 2023

Also think it's a redial. It's got serifs, but the proportions of those serifs aren't correct.

Peemacgee · Jul 13, 2023

+1 for redial.
Never seen (authentic) fonts like that on any Constellation.

Like @gatorcpa I’m also slightly thrown by the inner case back engravings - but that might be explained away ( unlike the fonts)

norb1967 · Jul 13, 2023

I’m gonna say a redial. The text isn’t quite right and the ‘E’ in certified looks a bit wonky.

iamvr · Jul 13, 2023

I‘m also in the redial camp. Crossed t‘s on a dog leg Connie is the tell tale IMO. The font in generall looks off.

Biezmez · Jul 13, 2023

“Cons” on the Constellation looks off to me.

p4ul · Jul 13, 2023

Could be refraction but SWIS5 MADE?

norb1967 · Jul 13, 2023

I would also expect there to be printed markers at each of the hour markers

aprax · Jul 13, 2023

norb1967
I would also expect there to be printed markers at each of the hour markers

In my experience 168.006 usually don't have those. But lots of inconsistencies with the dial, as said above. Crossed t's I have never seen before on a 60s Connie, and the final n in Constellation looks wrong. I am also for redial, it is a very pleasing one though.

The case back bears the maker's mark for La Centrale, so the different look may be due to that, since most 006 cases were produced by Serva SA. But I don't buy the "original" yellow gasket with as many as at least three watchmakers' marks on the case back. I also think that the serial is somehow suspect, I would have expected a 168.006 to have been fitted with a 564 movement if it was produced at the end of 1966/beginning of 1967, as the serial 24.465.XXX seems to indicate.

nanjingcigaretes · Jul 13, 2023

my money on redial, the Ts and the e on Constellation look weird. But this is one of the good one, I think.

Taddyangle · Jul 13, 2023

The letters "I" look different in word Officially and Certified.

JimInOz · Jul 13, 2023

I concur with @aprax regarding the case markings. I've seen a number of 168.005 cases by La Centrale and this one shares the same style/depth of markings.

Regarding the dial and not being familiar with this model, I see it as a very nice example but I'm unable to pass judgement on originality.
The thing that stands out to my uneducated eye is the "O" in officially, it looks too round, most I've seen tend to be slightly elongated (vertically).

TexOmega · Jul 13, 2023

Redial, the "n's" in CONSTELLATION are off(too identical on the radius of the curve)

Noddyman · Jul 14, 2023

aprax
In my experience 168.006 usually don't have those.

They all do have hour markers but are mostly covered over by the longer indicies.

S.H. · Jul 14, 2023

Not so sure... Even the gasket looks original, no moisture inside, clean case. Not afraid of some small inconsistencies in a small production gold dial.

The only way to be sure IMHO is to look at the back of the dial and see if the indexes have been removed and put back. What is the return policy?

aprax · Jul 14, 2023

Noddyman
They all do have hour markers but are mostly covered over by the longer indicies.

I had not realized that, you are correct. Here is a closeup of my 006 dial, and there is indeed a whiff of those markers visible.
(... and BTW, that is how the e in Constellation should look like.)

(The above photo was taken by WatchGuy https://watchguy.co.uk)

EDIT: To add that the hour markers are also visible on the first pic of the OP, e.g. at 10 o'clock. That is a bit unexpected for a redial...

Fallout Boy · Jul 14, 2023

grave cross-edition? (the other one too)

Your call....

hoipolloi

kaplan

gatorcpa

Vercingetorix

Caliber561

Peemacgee

norb1967

iamvr

Biezmez

p4ul

norb1967

aprax

nanjingcigaretes

Taddyangle

JimInOz

TexOmega

Noddyman

S.H.

aprax

Fallout Boy

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