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Mister2kris
·With my “Japan Made” watches I put the strap reverse (Tail facing me). I’ve heard in Japan that is the norm. Anybody else do this?
With Japanese made watches…
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YY77
·IWC, Tudor do that as well. I would personally change it around to avoid having to look at the pointy end of the strap.
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Canuck
·I’ve never done it your way. Too cumbersome to do up and undo, I find.
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mydeafcat
·Only two of my straps - both on deployants - are worn that way: Tudor BB Heritage Red and BB GMT. Doesn’t bother me at all.
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Dan S
·Nope.
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Evitzee
·Never heard it being a Japanese thing, I've had a few Swiss watches that mysteriously came like that for whatever reason. Immediately switched the strap around.
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hen
·Are there any advantages to reverse the strap?
I have done it by accident and it just messes with my muscle memory.
I have done it by accident and it just messes with my muscle memory.
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Dan S
·Are there any advantages to reverse the strap?
I have done it by accident and it just messes with my muscle memory.
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josiahg52
·Never heard of that, Japanese or otherwise. It's largely preference and what you've "learned" over time wearing watches, I'd bet. I did reverse it on my Garmin Tactix as it's just way easier that way, for some reason.
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Mister2kris
·I knew I wasn't just making things up!?! Mainly has to do with superstition, but I think its cool just as a conversation. There is a reason behind it. I remember hearing about this years ago. I guess its understandable fewer people are focused on tradition today due to shifting priorities like personal autonomy and emotional well-being. Just a quick Google search:
According to common superstitions and cultural beliefs (particularly in East Asian traditions like Feng Shui and Irezumi tattooing), a dragon on a watch strap should ideally be oriented so that its
head is facing upwards or inwards towards the wearer.
Superstition and Meaning
Practical Application on a Watch Strap
Given these beliefs:
Ultimately, many sources suggest that personal belief and intention are most important. If the current orientation is comfortable and makes you happy, that often outweighs strict traditional rules
According to common superstitions and cultural beliefs (particularly in East Asian traditions like Feng Shui and Irezumi tattooing), a dragon on a watch strap should ideally be oriented so that its
head is facing upwards or inwards towards the wearer.
Superstition and Meaning
- Ascending Dragon (Head Upwards): An ascending (upward-facing) dragon is generally considered a symbol of good fortune, power, strength, longevity, and a struggle towards self-improvement or enlightenment. This orientation is preferred for attracting positive energy and luck.
- Descending Dragon (Head Downwards): In early Japanese and Chinese art, a descending dragon was sometimes associated with a bad omen or misfortune. However, modern interpretations also suggest a downward-facing dragon can represent the act of "spreading enlightenment" or generosity, so the negative connotation has largely dissipated for many people.
- Facing Inwards: Similar to Pixiu bracelets, some believe the dragon should face inwards towards the body (or home, for statues) to invite wealth and positive energy to the wearer, rather than having it face outwards where the luck could "walk out the door".
Practical Application on a Watch Strap
Given these beliefs:
- When you look down at your wrist, the dragon's head should ideally be oriented towards the top of the watch face (12 o'clock position) or pointing towards your hand/body.
- The tail would then extend towards the buckle or the 6 o'clock position.
Ultimately, many sources suggest that personal belief and intention are most important. If the current orientation is comfortable and makes you happy, that often outweighs strict traditional rules
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Mister2kris
·Who here can't use a little bit of extra luck?? 😉
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Dan S
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- When you look down at your wrist, the dragon's head should ideally be oriented towards the top of the watch face (12 o'clock position) or pointing towards your hand/body.
- The tail would then extend towards the buckle or the 6 o'clock position.
Although honestly, this whole post reads like AI-generated gibberish. How can the dragon's head be oriented at 12 and also point towards your hand/body. Makes no sense. Similarly, how can the tail point towards the buckle.
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noless
·At least when they were covering attaching straps and customer service topics at Japanese watchmaking school we never once were told to put the strap on with the buckle at 6 o'clock...
Its always been for making a deployant clasp easier to use.
Its always been for making a deployant clasp easier to use.
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Evitzee
·At least when they were covering attaching straps and customer service topics at Japanese watchmaking school we never once were told to put the strap on with the buckle at 6 o'clock...
Its always been for making a deployant clasp easier to use.
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Evitzee
·the deployant clasps that convert a normal strap need to be placed in reverse so that they close in the direction that the clasp on a bracelet does.
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noless
·perhaps its just the norm here in Japan, but thats what we were taught to do, not really sure what to tell you.
Grand Seiko sign their deployants such that the GS is upright when the holes are at the 12o'clock side. In that sense I figured I wasn't in the minority, but again Grand Seiko IS a Japanese company?
Grand Seiko sign their deployants such that the GS is upright when the holes are at the 12o'clock side. In that sense I figured I wasn't in the minority, but again Grand Seiko IS a Japanese company?
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Evitzee
·perhaps its just the norm here in Japan, but thats what we were taught to do, not really sure what to tell you.
Grand Seiko sign their deployants such that the GS is upright when the holes are at the 12o'clock side. In that sense I figured I wasn't in the minority, but again Grand Seiko IS a Japanese company?
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noless
·interesting, ive never seen that deployant, at least here the one I have is the new one they will sell you for current model evolution 9 watches, mine is on my white birch. Perhaps there really is a difference between JDM models and international models for the deployant style?
the whole point of this thread though was that for pin buckle ive never seen watches sold with the holes at 12 here, only when on a deployant.
the whole point of this thread though was that for pin buckle ive never seen watches sold with the holes at 12 here, only when on a deployant.
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noless
·You've sent me down a rabbit hole of Grand Seiko deployants now, I have been nerd sniped 😵💫
A bit of research shows your design is more commonly seen on the heritage models, though on the current site they now only list my deployants style even on heritage models, the thick plottens.
https://www.grand-seiko.com/jp-ja/special/strap-and-clasp/
i must know now, what models are your GS?
A bit of research shows your design is more commonly seen on the heritage models, though on the current site they now only list my deployants style even on heritage models, the thick plottens.
https://www.grand-seiko.com/jp-ja/special/strap-and-clasp/
i must know now, what models are your GS?
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