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Will the DSOTM ever become a classic? How do you see its value evolving?

Caller
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Not sure if it has been said, but with a somewhat fragile case that cannot be repaired,

It's not fragile in my personal experience.

I've had mine since June 2014 and a few months back now, I tried on the Grey side and at the same time got to compare my DSOTM with a new model in the store. If it wasn't for the fact the store one had a tag on, you'd have been hard pushed to tell which one the unsold watch actually was.

The question about numbers produced is interesting, in that upon it's release, whilst not being an LE, it was being touted as being of limited production, because of the manufacturing process. Was that true, even then, or if it was, has the success of the watch meant that production has been upped? Whichever way you look at it, it's not a cheap watch.

By the way, I love mine and it's going nowhere.
 
al128
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It might also depend on how well ceramics get adopted. I've seen myself how scratch resistant it is, but there are a lot of fears/comments regarding shattering. People fear that (although I hear a lot about it but haven't seen many damaged watches so the "It happened to me" vs "I heard about it" ratio is not balanced).


my gut feeling is "poorly" adopted ... ceramics is nothing new ... I guess there are lots of people old enough to remember Rado trying to force-feed us with their ceramic Diastar series ... guess we are talking 1970ies ...

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the reason we dont see more ceramics, is b/c people do NOT WANT MORE watches made of it ... so its a market issue and not a technical

I guess the only non precious metal material that got pretty much embraced by the market is Titanium.

add on Q: is there any "odd-material" watch that is nowadays considered a VINTAGE CLASSIC and thus desirable?
(honest question)

cheers, Al
 
karalhoin
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my gut feeling is "poorly" adopted ... ceramics is nothing new ... I guess there are lots of people old enough to remember Rado trying to force-feed us with their ceramic Diastar series ... guess we are talking 1970ies ...

I would guess that what Rado used back then was totally different from what is available now. Rado itself only started using ceramic metal composites in the 80s (the Diastar is from 1962). Modern high tech ceramics started being used in watchmaking way later.

I'd assume Omega is using some decent reinforced composite, but I'm not really qualified to comment.

Still, your point remains valid, that the market didn't really adopt it en masse, although I'm sure one of the reasons is cost (very cheap materials but not so cheap to produce, at least compared to steel).
 
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While You Guys contemplate about the future of DSoTM , i plan to print & sell T Shirts @ 5 bucks a piece at the local farmers market.....

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You seem to be trying to portray you're the woman in your avatar, but your hands, well, I'm not so sure??
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Nicked
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It's kind of ironic to ask if the 1000th variant (and one of the worst) from a real classic will become a classic itself...
In 5 years this watch will be in complete oblivion.
 
karalhoin
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It's kind of ironic to ask if the 1000th variant (and one of the worst) from a real classic will become a classic itself...
In 5 years this watch will be in complete oblivion.

After months looking into it, I do agree that the number of versions is now so huge that there isn't much left of the original in any modern Moonwatch model.

I don't agree regarding this particular case tho. It was the first version in many Speedmasters that actually brought something new. Resisting aging and daily scratchy wear like no SS model can (well unless you throw the thing at the wall or apparently have butter hands over marble pavements).

Just adding Snoopy to a dial or changing colors and so on... Nice but is it really as significant add coming out with something fully in ZrO2 except for movement and strap?

I had an AD trying to convince me that the "Tintin" was "a classic" and I should get it instead (guess which did he had in stock). Right. :-D

And I have no bias as I don't own any yet. Just think that now and then they pump out a version that isn't pretty much the same with different tweaks... even if it sucks (debatable) at least it sucks in a very different way for a change. 😁

I think Omega could have done better if they had not diluted the DSOTM with so many variants. But then again, they do that with everything... gotta milk that moon.
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Ravineman
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I expect to buy one in 3 years when someone who bought it new gets tired of it.
I expect to pay much less than $ 3,000 for it. If for some reason they still want $ 6,000, i will buy something else !
 
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Good luck with that.

Ravineman Ravineman
I expect to buy one in 3 years when someone who bought it new gets tired of it.
I expect to pay much less than $ 3,000 for it. If for some reason they still want $ 6,000, i will buy something else !
 
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I expect to buy one in 3 years when someone who bought it new gets tired of it.
I expect to pay much less than $ 3,000 for it. If for some reason they still want $ 6,000, i will buy something else !

If it drops more than half its value in 3 years, I'll be extremely surprised. Keeping my order tho, I'm betting it will hold value well. Time will tell.
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I think I said earlier in the thread (don't care right now to search it out) that I think the price floor for the DSOTM will be 5, maybe mid-4s - I think I'm sticking with that, though it should be noted that this is conjecture at best
 
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I think I said earlier in the thread (don't care right now to search it out) that I think the price floor for the DSOTM will be 5, maybe mid-4s - I think I'm sticking with that, though it should be noted that this is conjecture at best

If it drops to $4000-$5000 then I will have no choice but to buy each model, even the white one lol
 
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If it drops to $4000-$5000 then I will have no choice but to buy each model, even the white one lol

Agreed!
 
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my 2 c:
while "current" line is expensive, the pre owned "keep"value for those who want to save a bit, thats why DSOTM keep nice value.

when a new model become a star, the demands weaken and price frop. not always visual as dealerds try to make money, but as a private seller you'll be stuck with the watch and cam get way less then what you see asking price is.

so no, I don't think DSOTM will be good investment for you
 
al128
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yep, the fact that Omega seems to try to cash in from their investment on ceramic cases (new launch) ... will make the "specialty" of ceramics a non-starter ...

my uneducated guess ... if they keep shooting out an number of ?SOTM ceramic watches that it will be something like having a Titanium watch ... some like it, some prefer it, some don't care for those...

but it seems that the material proper - does NOT make them collectable
 
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If it drops to $4000-$5000 then I will have no choice but to buy each model, even the white one lol
Agreed! I still have an eye on the original dsotm or the pitch black but just can't justify it since I have the gsotm as well..
 
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karalhoin karalhoin
Thanks for the input so far guys. I should add that I'm looking at buying it from a reputable grey market seller in the UK.

The price is lower than retail at ADs, not hugely but around 18% off. This shop gets the watches from ADs, so they come stamped by them and international warranty is valid.
Not a great discount for a gray seller. You could get much better than that going gray. Even an AD would offer a better discount. Keep looking.

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karalhoin
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VicLeChic VicLeChic
Not a great discount for a gray seller. You could get much better than that going gray. Even an AD would offer a better discount. Keep looking.

Indeed,

I kept looking and ended up getting around -26.5% off retail, in a less known seller in the EU. Lead-time was almost 6 weeks however, definitely not for the impatient ones. It was still good savings, I would not have bought it at AD price.

Still, there's always the VAT here in Europe, so a DSOTM at the best-price-possible will always cost around 1200 Eur ($1350) more just due to tax (compared to US states with no sales tax). Been about a week now ::psy::
 
karalhoin
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While You Guys contemplate about the future of DSoTM , i plan to print & sell T Shirts @ 5 bucks a piece at the local farmers market.....

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Only noticed this one now. :-D

Would actually be a cool T-Shirt. My OCD side would only push the watch a bit higher and definitely change the font (and color) to something more Omega/Speedmaster-like.

Then you'll be selling truckloads of them. :-P
 
VicLeChic
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Personally, I can see the DSOM becoming a timeless classic. Very Darth Vader.

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