Will the DSOTM ever become a classic? How do you see its value evolving?

karalhoin · Feb 21, 2016

R Rahkshi007
Honestly, I feel my Rado deployment claps is more comfortable but this omega's claps is still wearable. If u frequently "changing the size" or wear by different person i suggest you get the tang buckle. Changing the "hole" of the strap in the deployment claps is quite tricky as it can easily scratch the side wall of the leather strap when you try pull the strap out of its current "hole". Hence my suggestion is, avoid changing the "hole" of the deployment claps, as I asked the AD they have no solution for it. Maybe I need open a topic on this matter to seek for solution..

Well I just think Omega is still a bit behind on this one. It's not that complex. My TAG Aquaracer has very high granularity to choose the size. You just open, pull and lock again when it is perfect. Much easier to have 0.1mm jumps or less than 3mm holes.

But still, that's not enough to make me give up on the DSOTM.

I'm waiting for the final estimate form the grey seller and then it will be the time to decide to go on with this or not. I've already noticed that this is a model of extremes. Some people thing it is quite awesome, mixing history (speedmaster) with technology (9300) and style/form (ceramic/titanium) and others think it is just a temporary fad, overpriced and with no future.

All interesting to read about. 😀

off · Feb 21, 2016

alford78
Bad way to look at it but even my wife couldn't believe how they couldn't negotiate and literally willingly lost so many sales because of it.

Duly noted, was going to at least try it on, admire it, be impressed. 👍 I'll try to have the discipline not to take it home on the spot.
I take it the DSOtM and GSOtM must be hot models in Omega's eye with no room for negotiation. I recently snagged a Speedmaster '57 and the previous owner was kind enough to provide the receipt for warranty purposes.
He managed to get a 8% discount from the boutique. I wonder if being open to negotiation is something regional with the boutiques or similar to Rolex where they'll discount everything but the sport pieces.

Syed117 · Feb 22, 2016

off
Duly noted, was going to at least try it on, admire it, be impressed.[emoji106]I'll try to have the discipline not to take it home on the spot.
I take it the DSOtM and GSOtM must be hot models in Omega's eye with no room for negotiation. I recently snagged a Speedmaster '57 and the previous owner was kind enough to provide the receipt for warranty purposes.
He managed to get a 8% discount from the boutique. I wonder if being open to negotiation is something regional with the boutiques or similar to Rolex where they'll discount everything but the sport pieces.

You might be on to something about boutique discounts being regional.

I've been to every boutique in the NY area and they are fantastic, but they won't budge from msrp.

Ended up getting my 57 for under 7k from a trusted seller that sourced it from an AD.

Perseus · Feb 23, 2016

al128
I would bite myself in the sack had I spent a fortune 30 years ago in a skeletonized Breguet, etc... just to find at least 2 gay hairdressers wearing skeletonized watches as well, let alone Dave down at the muffler shop who has one for weekends and "weddings with ties" ... 😗

LOL! This is without the doubt the funniest thing on the internet today.

Perseus · Feb 23, 2016

I don't see the DSOTM becoming a classic because it deviates so much from traditional watches in appearance and case materials. When buying a watch I'm hoping I'll be able to see it down the road without loosing my shirt if things don't work out. Most watches that are known to be increasing in value cost big bucks (vintage Rolex ex.) and you'd have to wait a long time to see any real appreciation.

karalhoin · Feb 23, 2016

Perseus
I don't see the DSOTM becoming a classic because it deviates so much from traditional watches in appearance and case materials. When buying a watch I'm hoping I'll be able to see it down the road without loosing my shirt if things don't work out. Most watches that are known to be increasing in value cost big bucks (vintage Rolex ex.) and you'd have to wait a long time to see any real appreciation.

I understand that, especially regarding Rolex.

However, isn't it also possible that being the first with certain characteristics (fully in ZrO2 ceramics, including case, dial, crown, and pusher and even ceramic/titanium deployment clasp) and with a movement known for being quite accurate (Co-Axial 9300 caliber) the model can end up being more than a fad?

Part of why I got interested in this watch was that when it was launched at Baselworld 2013, many took it as an instant classic. But truth is that after that Omega released a s$#load of versions of it, diluting its uniqueness and even the original model is not a limited edition, probably won't even be discontinued any time soon.

It might also depend on how well ceramics get adopted. I've seen myself how scratch resistant it is, but there are a lot of fears/comments regarding shattering. People fear that (although I hear a lot about it but haven't seen many damaged watches so the "It happened to me" vs "I heard about it" ratio is not balanced).

Tricky. I'm still giving this one some thinking. After seeing it live it became worse to resist as the thing looks impressive and not big at all even at 44.25mm, plus I can get it for -37% the retail price. It's still a very pricey watch after that, but that cuts losses a bit.

Everyone, please convince me not to do it. 😀 The grey seller hasn't told me the waiting time yet, so there is time to reflect very well.

Perseus · Feb 23, 2016

karalhoin
Tricky. I'm still giving this one some thinking. After seeing it live it became worse to resist as the thing looks impressive and not big at all even at 44.25mm, plus I can get it for -37% the retail price. It's still a very pricey watch after that, but that cuts losses a bit.

Everyone, please convince me not to do it. 😀 The grey seller hasn't told me the waiting time yet, so there is time to reflect very well.

If you love it and can get it at 37% off then it's a no brainer! My only goal in the watch game is to buy pieces I love without exceeding the total amount I'm comfortable spending.

kangajack · Feb 23, 2016

Canuck
The problem that pops up when a used item is offered for sale is that the prospective buyer knows you want to sell it, and sets out to find out how badly you want to sell it! Hence, low ball offers! And, in offering anything for sale, you are competing with every one else who is selling the same item! When there's more than one for sale, you are selling into a buyer's market! So, you buy one for $7,500.00 2016 dollars, and sell it in 2026 for $10,000.00 dollars. You've lost money! By 2026, your 2016 dollar is worth, say, $12,500.00! Selling it in depreciated dollars costs you money! The GOOD news is that, your 2016 car you paid $50,000.00 for, will be worth, say $2,500.00 in 2026. Buy watches!

Agree with all of the above 😀

Rahkshi007 · Feb 23, 2016

After seeing it live it became worse to resist as the thing looks impressive and not big at all even at 44.25mm.

Day 14 of owning, I still feel it really worth although it costs hell lots of money.
I was in the same situation with you.. When it first launched in Basel and I watch it on the screen and it didn't really attracted me. Until 2014 I saw it in the flesh when I was on vacation in Singapore and saw it in flesh, the watch is planted deeply in my mind.. Then every time i passed by Omega boutique, I will keep watching this watch in the Display Cabinet. In my country almost all store hold firmly with the price without discount. Until I had my vacation recently in europe and the price is cheaper about 2.7k USD (25% cheaper), and it makes me pull the trigger.

IMO, if you still have the desire of wanting to purchase the watch after 6 months or 1 year, it probably means that you really want it and won't regret for the next few years.

gttime · Feb 23, 2016

R Rahkshi007
IMO, if you still have the desire of wanting to purchase the watch after 6 months or 1 year, it probably means that you really want it and won't regret for the next few years.

I have found this to be very true.

karalhoin · Feb 25, 2016

Baselworld has started and there is already at least one new Speedmaster announced.

I'm wondering how this will chance prices?
Would hate to buy the DSOTM just before the price drops...

Riviera Paradise · Feb 25, 2016

karalhoin
Baselworld has started and there is already at least one new Speedmaster announced.

I'm wondering how this will chance prices?
Would hate to buy the DSOTM just before the price drops...

Pretty sure the retail price won´t drop...but what might happen is the launch of a Metas certified, anti-magnetic DSOTM....which could result in a price drop of the current DSOTM on the grey and second hand market....and theoretically a Metas DSOTM might hold resale value better than a "standard" DSOTM.

I would normally not wait before making a purchasing decision on a watch if I like it sufficiently to pull the trigger...but Basel is only a few weeks away so I am patiently waiting before pulling the trigger on any watch right now...I suppose you could consider it to be a "watch fast" before "watch Easter" (Basel)😀. Cheers.

karalhoin · Feb 25, 2016

Riviera Paradise
Pretty sure the retail price won´t drop...but what might happen is the launch of a Metas certified, anti-magnetic DSOTM....which could result in a price drop of the current DSOTM on the grey and second hand market....and theoretically a Metas DSOTM might hold resale value better than a "standard" DSOTM.

I would normally not wait before making a purchasing decision on a watch if I like it sufficiently to pull the trigger...but Basel is only a few weeks away so I am patiently waiting before pulling the trigger on any watch right now...I suppose you could consider it to be a "watch fast" before "watch Easter" (Basel)😀. Cheers.

Interesting thoughts. I don't see a Metas DSOTM being out, but you never know. Omega does liketo release a lot of versions of the DSOTM.

What I do agree is that perhaps it would be worth waiting. I've waited ages for this purchase, might as well wait two more weeks and see what the market brings. Just hope prices won't go UP. 😀

watchknut · Feb 25, 2016

Not sure if it has been said, but with a somewhat fragile case that cannot be repaired, and the $7k price tag of a replacement case, I think that some buyers will be scared, and in the long run, such a risk will hurt the value of the watch.

But what do I know, what is today's novelty pseudo tool watch may be tomorrow's DRSD.

hansmaulwurf · Feb 25, 2016

Will the DSOTM ever become a classic?

=> ähm - no 😵‍💫

abrod520 · Feb 25, 2016

One thing's for sure, it'll probably not appreciate much - the Dark Side was Omega's best selling model in its first year I think. There are a lot of them out there, and in a couple years' time when the original owners are tired of them, the market's gonna flood and they'll be worth maybe $3-4k.

karalhoin · Feb 25, 2016

abrod520
One thing's for sure, it'll probably not appreciate much - the Dark Side was Omega's best selling model in its first year I think. There are a lot of them out there, and in a couple years' time when the original owners are tired of them, the market's gonna flood and they'll be worth maybe $3-4k.

I can see this happening, yes. Regarding the case fragilty. I've been asking around a lot and considering the watches that were sold, there aren't many complaints.A couple of cases and a couple of photos seem to float around, but there's not a large number of people who damaged them. So either they're quiet about it or are still fine.

It does require a bit more care, as don't let it slip and drop when you're putting it on (less likely with the new deployment buckle), try not to bang it against a concrete wall and so on. But I'd see those as something one should take into account even with a stainless steel watch that was expensive and/or you care about.

Most of the daily wear and tear is probably small touches while wearing it. For instance, rubbing the clasp or case on desks banging it against the toaster while having breakfast and so on. 😀 In those cases, I can see the ceramic holding up a lot better. That's probably why some owners that have them for 2 years now say they look mint/like new except for dirt/dust.

But there's always bad luck. I never dropped a phone for years and years and one day one just flew out of my hand while in the kitchen and shattered the glass on marble. It only took 1x and it was dead. So it's care and common sense but also luck... 😀

(I'm assuming the things won't break/crack while doing simple tasks like changing straps and hitting the case by accident)

abrod520 · Feb 25, 2016

karalhoin
I never dropped a phone for years and years and one day one just flew out of my hand

True about that - though phones these days (especially if you're using an iPhone) are designed like bars of soap - they slip right out of your hand. A watch won't do that as long as you take care when putting it on. If this truly concerns you, you can always buy the Dark Side on the deployant clasp - or, just take care to put your watch on over your bed, or couch etc.

VillageIdiot · Feb 25, 2016

karalhoin
Regarding the case fragilty. I've been asking around a lot and considering the watches that were sold, there aren't many complaints.A couple of cases and a couple of photos seem to float around, but there's not a large number of people who damaged them. So either they're quiet about it or are still fine.

Even though sapphire crystals are more brittle than mineral glass ones, we still don't see many reports of broken sapphire crystals. Similarly, I don't expect to see many reports of broken ceramic cases, although it obviously happens (and you really should have insurance for this). I think the likeliest scenario for this is an accidental dropping, and much of this can probably be mitigated with some deployant clasp and band.

Rahkshi007 · Feb 25, 2016

My wild guess of coming Basel is DSOTM with ceramic bracelet 😁