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路I could very well be wrong but I don't think this will ever be a classic. I think it will always be perceived as somewhat gimmicky.
No offense intended.
No offense intended.
Will the DSOTM ever become a classic? How do you see its value evolving?
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Bushido
路Classic? Probably not, too divisive in style and design. Gimmicky though? There are some absolute practical positives this case type has in its favor. Perhaps I'm splitting hairs because I love mine. However, gimmicky has the connotation of no added functional nor practical use. Having a very real and very high level of scratch resistance, I would argue, offers a great degree of practical application.
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路Classic? Probably not, too divisive in style and design. Gimmicky though? There are some absolute practical positives this case type has in its favor. Perhaps I'm splitting hairs because I love mine. However, gimmicky has the connotation of no added functional nor practical use. Having a very real and very high level of scratch resistance, I would argue, offers a great degree of practical application.
It's a good.looking piece, and much respect for all the side of the moons fans. It's just not quite grabbing me that's all.
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BruceTheManLee
路buy watches to wear and only because you like it or love it. I wouldn't even consider the "investment" or value of it in the future because it depends on so many things (i.e. what Omega will release in the future and what watch buyers will want in future and time in future)
Buy the watch you want more! The amount of $ you're trying figure out for value or retained value should be immaterial to you. If it is not, then you probably shouldn't be buying the watch. In my opinion 馃榾
Buy the watch you want more! The amount of $ you're trying figure out for value or retained value should be immaterial to you. If it is not, then you probably shouldn't be buying the watch. In my opinion 馃榾
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karalhoin
路I must admit it sounds pretty pejorative when said like this.
It's a good.looking piece, and much respect for all the side of the moons fans. It's just not quite grabbing me that's all.
I think you do have a point. Also think it won't realy become a classic (I'm looking way ahead here, let's think 10-15 years, not 2 or 3). The first DSOTM did have a few "first of its kind' touches (in the Omega lineup) so it had that potential, but I think there will be too many units on the market by then due to its success to really allow an iconic aura to it. Then again, who knows.
Gimmicky in the sense of attracting attention, yes, no doubt (when the original came out in 2013). But gimmicky in the sense of embellishing with unnecessary features. I'd say not really. If we exclude the extensive use of ZrO2 ceramic (case, bezel,pushers,clasp... the whole thing is ceramic) it has a fairly well known movement and a familiar, well proven-design/shape.
The ceramic does bring quite a few advantages. Amazingly low weight/comfort is one of them, that gets mentioned less often than the very good resistance to scratches (on case, bezel and clasp). These are two useful features that definitely have a place in the market. With those advantages, came some disadvantages, so it won't be the right choice in all use cases.
At this moment my main concern with it is when I think about having it serviced at non-Omega centers where any damage to the case won't be covered (I just got it so don't expect any service in less than 6 years from now, most likely) or strap-changing (because I'm clumsy and don't really know how resistant the lugs might be to clumsy people with poor tools).
Other than that, the main risk is perhaps boredom, being a fully black watch. But not wearing it every day will probably avoid that.
There's a downside to having all these variations of the DSOTM. I think Omega really overdid it and diluted the model a bit too much. I would have released them sparingly, perhaps with a Limited Edition in the lineup. But then again, I'm sure they have whole departments studying the market and forecasting how to better get profit in the long term.
There's a positive to all these models having being launched. I don't think Omega would have come up with the GSOTM and all the newer DSOTM follow-ups if the reliability had proven to be weak. Having invested in so many more models probably means that the original didn't turn out to be a lemon in terms of warranty issues and bad customer reactions due to abnormally high damage (cracks, etc).
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路Expanding on one of your points, I do think that if they had kept it to DSOM it would have been more valuable as a line. At this point is one more flavor on the ice cream stand.
It's not a matter of units sold really. Some of the most collectable watches where produced on huge quantities for years. The smp 300, speedy, rolex 5512 or 5513 etc
It's not a matter of units sold really. Some of the most collectable watches where produced on huge quantities for years. The smp 300, speedy, rolex 5512 or 5513 etc
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路First post so go easy. But I have a 2013 DSOTM. I think it has good potential for becoming a classic in 10-15 years. All black watches do well. Plus it was the first of it's kind in many ways. Cool name. I'm hoping my warranty/serial card shows mine was one of the very first produced. I could be wrong, but I was under the impression production was very limited the first year to less than 300. Obviously that has changed some, but I doubt the 10s of thousands claims of it in the wild.
Variety isn't a bad thing either. At least it gives me more strap options.
Variety isn't a bad thing either. At least it gives me more strap options.
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路First post so go easy. But I have a 2013 DSOTM. I think it has good potential for becoming a classic in 10-15 years. All black watches do well. Plus it was the first of it's kind in many ways. Cool name. I'm hoping my warranty/serial card shows mine was one of the very first produced. I could be wrong, but I was under the impression production was very limited the first year to less than 300. Obviously that has changed some, but I doubt the 10s of thousands claims of it in the wild.
Variety isn't a bad thing either. At least it gives me more strap options.
welcome to the forum. 馃檮
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路First post so go easy. But I have a 2013 DSOTM. I think it has good potential for becoming a classic in 10-15 years. All black watches do well. Plus it was the first of it's kind in many ways. Cool name. I'm hoping my warranty/serial card shows mine was one of the very first produced. I could be wrong, but I was under the impression production was very limited the first year to less than 300. Obviously that has changed some, but I doubt the 10s of thousands claims of it in the wild.
Variety isn't a bad thing either. At least it gives me more strap options.
Time will tell, but as an early adopter you can at least enjoy it on its own merit.
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jcs2000
路It is a great looking watch and u can certainly wear it everyday. It will wear well with time.
Not an investment. If u are struggling with the price that is OK--it is easy to get desensitized to watch prices.
May want to consider Zenith if u like chronographs--less $$, high quality, and can get something visually similiar.
Not an investment. If u are struggling with the price that is OK--it is easy to get desensitized to watch prices.
May want to consider Zenith if u like chronographs--less $$, high quality, and can get something visually similiar.
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OmegaCard
路Your logic is not off, and although I wasn't into it then I did believe it was, at least, one of a kind although I always thought that it was more swatch than omega.
Time will tell, but as an early adopter you can at least enjoy it on its own merit.
Welcome to the forum
The movement is Omega through and through 馃憤
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davy26
路I have been unimpressed by this and the other recent new-fangled versions of the Speedmaster, all the time feeling justified in deeming my 3570.50 (or the various earlier versions of the basic Moonwatch) as the only thing to have. I made the mistake today of looking in at an Omega Dealer and handling/trying on a DSOM. It is VERY much more attractive 'in the flesh', and I am sorely tempted. The quality and tactile characteristics of the case are superb and I really like the fabric strap too. The Dealer offered a deal at 拢6,850, (list 拢7,590) but here in the UK it can be bought (with confidence) from Iconic for 拢6,260. Incidentally I'm contemplating this without any concern regarding price/future value - I agree with others on this Forum who say that we should buy because we like and not for reasons of one-upmanship or misplaced hopes for investment potential. So far I've resisted, but I sense a measure of inevitability here!
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karalhoin
路I made the mistake today of looking in at an Omega Dealer and handling/trying on a DSOM. It is VERY much more attractive 'in the flesh', and I am sorely tempted. The quality and tactile characteristics of the case are superb and I really like the fabric strap too.
You should have known better. 馃榿
I made that mistake when I was trying to prove that it is too big/thick (44.25mm/16mm) and it backfired in an annoyingly expensive way.
The Dealer offered a deal at 拢6,850, (list 拢7,590) but here in the UK it can be bought (with confidence) from Iconic for 拢6,260.
That's not a bad price from a dealer. I checked a couple stores and they refused to go below list price.
I like Iconic and really wanted to buy from them again but couldn't get them to lower even a single peanut from the website price. Had to go somewhere else since I could wait for a long lead time.
That price is for the [2013] 311.92.44.51.01.003 however. It's a matter of opinion of course, but I think the 311.92.44.51.01.007 [2015] is worth the extra cost. The Titanium+ZrO2 foldover clasp is very nice, both in looks and comfort/safety.
So far I've resisted, but I sense a measure of inevitability here!
I guess that's what we call the irresistible urge to join the Dark Side. Hide your wallet. 馃榿
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richard371
路Yes the deployment clasp is way better and safer. Much quicker to take the watch on and off.
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karalhoin
路Much quicker to take the watch on and off.
I'd focus more on the "Much less likely to have it fly off" 馃榿
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richard371
路True never been a fan of tang buckles at all for that reason on any watch.
I'd focus more on the "Much less likely to have it fly off" 馃榿
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路I made the mistake today of looking in at an Omega Dealer and handling/trying on a DSOM. It is VERY much more attractive 'in the flesh', and I am sorely tempted.
I've said it here before and I'll continue to say it again until I'm blue in the face: DO NOT TRY ON THE DSotM, OR YOU WILL WANT ONE VERY BADLY 馃榾
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OmegaCard
路Yes, If you're the type that can't be bothered putting on your watch in the morning. Watch out!
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davy26
路Thanks karalhoin and abrod520 for your comments and empathy. I am recently retired and have to keep reminding myself that I don't need to rush anything - literally,'time on my hands'. So the speed at which I can put on/take off a watch is of no consequence to me, but I'll be happy to save 拢610 (!) not specifying the Titanium strap. I'm more comfortable anyway with a conventional buckle strap - I have a deployment strap on my IWC Portuguese and I find that quite awkward to use and I think it can give rise to an increased risk of dropping the watch. I have a Di- Modell Rallye strap on my 3570.50 and the twin prong buckle on that is very good.
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路Sounds like the regular buckle will be fine for you. I find omegas deployment is super quick and easy and much less likely to drop. I paid 1k us to get the deployment and calf strap and could not be happier. I may add the alligator down the road to change things up a bit. I'm just not a fan of the Velcro. I'll keep it in the box if I ever need to flip.
Thanks karalhoin and abrod520 for your comments and empathy. I am recently retired and have to keep reminding myself that I don't need to rush anything - literally,'time on my hands'. So the speed at which I can put on/take off a watch is of no consequence to me, but I'll be happy to save 拢610 (!) not specifying the Titanium strap. I'm more comfortable anyway with a conventional buckle strap - I have a deployment strap on my IWC Portuguese and I find that quite awkward to use and I think it can give rise to an increased risk of dropping the watch. I have a Di- Modell Rallye strap on my 3570.50 and the twin prong buckle on that is very good.