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WatchCor
·Agreed, overall the angle makes it a bit hard to be sure but from these photos alone I'd say it's in good condition. Yeah, polished probably but in good condition regardless imo.
Why I Pay Attention to Crown Guards
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Darkhorse
·Thanks, I reached out to see if he could provide more pics. I've found myself getting really hung up on crown guards in my search for a 16570. Many are wayyy overpolished. How do these look? -- Thanks for helping lend an eye.
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wsfarrell
·Thanks, I reached out to see if he could provide more pics. I've found myself getting really hung up on crown guards in my search for a 16570. Many are wayyy overpolished. How do these look? -- Thanks for helping lend an eye.
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·Thanks. I think I'm going to have to find a true unpolished piece to get what I'm looking for. I don't like the softened look.
"unpolished" = polished
"mint" = over-polished
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S.H.
·Thanks, I reached out to see if he could provide more pics. I've found myself getting really hung up on crown guards in my search for a 16570. Many are wayyy overpolished. How do these look? -- Thanks for helping lend an eye.
Crown guards may be OK, but the bezel looks bad imho (very polished then somewhat rebrushed). I had a sharp expII once, all the charm is in the bezel for me.
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ConElPueblo
·Crown guards may be OK, but the bezel looks bad imho (very polished then somewhat rebrushed). I had a sharp expII once, all the charm is in the bezel for me.
Same as with Seamaster Pros. The scalloped edge of the bezel is where polishing will show immediately.
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Hitman
·Sadly there will always be buyers for the over-polished watch. Many people that want a vintage watch don't like the look of an old watch but want the cachet that comes with a vintage (and the potential investment) which means dealers are happy to give them a refinished watch that is old but looks new.
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·Thanks all, it's great to hear from the good-eye experts. I haven't handled many in person so it's great to hear these perspectives. Last one below, for now, that I'm considering. Thoughts? Do the lugs look thin at the end?
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kov
·Crown guards 📖
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Vintagewtchzilla
·Crown Guard getting recut
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Aquariusmatic
·yup nice reminder and another one to look for on the older Rolex watches is the lug holes.
I almost purchased a no date sub, i was so much in love with the price and the watch that I've missed the lug hole being oval and almost showing the springbar head above the level of the hole.
My GF saved my ass on that one, the rest of the watch was OK there was obviously some damage to the lug and was ground to oblivion to make it appear better. Since then I have been really cautious about a birth year no date and am still struggling to find one that has not been seriously molested - even worse with EXP II.
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JwRosenthal
·I’m not sure I’ve seen one this bad- currently being offered on the ‘bay for way too much.
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mjb
·Holy smokes, look how the bracelet pins stick out too! The TRF fanatics would have a fit.
Old subs go for stupid money these days.
Old subs go for stupid money these days.
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Linesiders
··Stripers, not snook.Those lugs are in terrible shape.
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·Holy smokes, look how the bracelet pins stick out too! The TRF fanatics would have a fit.
Old subs go for stupid money these days.
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Linesiders
··Stripers, not snook.The problem is that most people (particularly sellers) are obtuse the difference between a nice, well cared for vintage sub, and a clapped out turd like this.
Intentionally obtuse.
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So are these crown guards "well cared" or clapped out 👎 I don't think they should be this pointy and thin? Looks like a accident with the polishing wheel to me🤨
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southtexas
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So are these crown guards "well cared" or clapped out 👎 I don't think they should be this pointy and thin? Looks like a accident with the polishing wheel to me🤨
Pretty rough shape. If priced accordingly, buyer can decide if he can live with it.
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·Pretty rough shape. If priced accordingly, buyer can decide if he can live with it.
Yeah, I don't think so (22,5k€). With a proper (i.e. not-service) insert and (much) better case that price would be in my opinion reasonable and correct.
Shame really, the patina/colour of the lume is gorgeous imo.
