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Why I Pay Attention to Crown Guards

  1. wsfarrell May 4, 2020

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    Below are a couple of Rolex 14060's, both around 20 years old, offered by a well-respected dealer. To his credit, this dealer uses consistent language in describing the condition of cases: most are either "excellent" or "very good." In this instance, both cases are described as "excellent." Compare the crown guards in these photos. I would agree that in the first photo they are excellent. The guards on the second watch, however, have been polished down to nubs. And this isn't even eBay, where hoards of Rolexes are "mint," "perfect," "unpolished," etc. Buyer beware.

    rolex_14060_excellent_case.jpg

    rolex_14060_excellent_case2.jpg
     
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  2. pIoNeErOfThEnILe May 4, 2020

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    nice reminder
     
  3. generious May 5, 2020

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    yup nice reminder and another one to look for on the older Rolex watches is the lug holes.
     
  4. Togri v. 2.0 Wow! Custom title... cool May 5, 2020

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    The secret is to just have to categories: “excellent” and “super trashed”. That way most will be excellent :D

    I once complained about an 80% rating of a Sub, where one of the lugs had a sizeable ding and was clearly deformed at the tip making the bracelet a difficult fit. I told the seller (which was very reputable) that I would like if this had been disclosed seperately. He just said that the model was hard to come by in very good condition and that the ding was covered by his 80% rating :mad: Lesson: always ask for more photos.
     
  5. watch3s May 5, 2020

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    and as time passes, these will continue to get harder and harder to find at a fair price sadly.
     
  6. Uniqez May 5, 2020

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    Few more polishes and pins will be sticking out and nothing will be left of the crown guard.
     
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  7. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. May 5, 2020

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    Great reference!
     
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  8. marco May 5, 2020

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    That sub qualifies as a PCG !
     
  9. chichi May 5, 2020

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    sorry what is PCG?
     
  10. chichi May 5, 2020

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    and the crown guards on the second photo look like fangs
     
  11. wsfarrell May 5, 2020

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    pointed crown guards
     
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  12. Meyrin May 5, 2020

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    Going ONLY by the two photos I´d run away from the second "fanged" crown guards one! But the first one looks okay. The pins are still well tucked-away inside the lugs that indicate (for a 14060 ca. 20 years old) maybe only one very light polishing, if that! That's how things look on my 1996 14060, which has never been polished.
     
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  13. alam May 5, 2020

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    sad to see the damage someone placed on the second one :(
     
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  14. sonicosa May 5, 2020

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    Really helpful to see the two examples side by side like this, thanks!
     
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  15. Happy May 5, 2020

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    Should be POS
     
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  16. chichi May 5, 2020

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    Thank you! now I've learned a teasing acronym
     
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  17. chichi May 5, 2020

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    Out of curiosity how much does a service case go for?
     
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  18. kroro May 11, 2020

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    Great comparison, thanks.
     
  19. Nobel Prize Spell Master! May 11, 2020

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    Unless of course you're evaluating a 5512 with the pointed crown guards.
     
  20. obstando May 15, 2020

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    Sadly there will always be buyers for the over-polished watch. Many people that want a vintage watch don't like the look of an old watch but want the cachet that comes with a vintage (and the potential investment) which means dealers are happy to give them a refinished watch that is old but looks new.