Why do you not prefer Rolex?

Longbow · Apr 2, 2016

abrod520
You probably still think 9/11 wasn't perpetrated by the illuminati and that Kennedy wasn't killed by lizard people that live underground and that... that.... that we didn't fake the moon landing!!!!!!!11!

(That last one actually hurt to type, not just because I'm a Speedmaster collector, but also because I'm a space nerd / fan of human intelligence in general)

Oh pleeease. The Moon landings were real; they must have been because I watched them on TV as a little kid. The Speedmasters were faked, just like the Aston Martin that was pushed over the cliff in the Italian Job....now that and trashing the Miura in the intro hurt to type.

gostang9 · Apr 2, 2016

I own several mechanical watches, none of them rare or vintage. I travel a lot for work and I recently got a new Explorer II 42mm (black dial). I chose it because it has the GMT function without "appearing" as large as the GMT Master (personal taste). I purchased it new in Canada 6 months ago for what used ones are selling for on DavidSW now, so seems like a great "value" purchase.

I don't know many people who wear watches, and other than watch people I doubt anyone I meet knows it to be a Rolex. Not that I care either way. If someone judges me purely based on the watch I'm wearing, this would immediately tell me their opinion doesn't matter to me anyhow.

I chose Rolex because I wanted a robust watch I can trust not to malfunction with regular wear. In most of my purchases I look for a trusted brand with a model that appeals to me and will give me the necessary function. Once I find an item that meets this criteria, I them find a trusted seller that I can get it from at a good price.

As for loving or hating a particular brand, I don't buy into this. Not with cars (I've driven good and bad cars from many automakers) or other items. I want to purchase a chrono in the future and it will not be based on brand.

As for the people who purchase/wear particular brands, I'm sure there are many good and bad examples of people with all brands. Most watch aficionados I know (with interest, knowledge and financial means to buy "high-end" watches) own from many brands, including but not limited to Rolex.

Longbow · Apr 2, 2016

"nice Daytona!", ......" no, its a Rolex"..

That's priceless!

al128 · Apr 2, 2016

ac106
I was sorta thinking about this the other day. I really dig the GMT master/ Pepsi. I think its such a great looking watch, ticks all the boxes for me...

Then you go on the Rolex forums... not here necessarily, but the "other big one" and its totally obnoxious. Threads like: "Rolex and your socks" "Rolex and your college degree"... and then there are posts where posters pretend they don't want people to notice they are wearing a Rolex but it's completely obvious that they crave the attention. (Doubly applies to idiots who don't even own one yet but are concerned they will be noticed so they post inane questions and scenarios.). Then there are threads about how Rolex is better then Patek or Audemars when clearly they don't own both brands and it's blatant fanboy-ism . Then there are the guys that practically rub the Buddha thinking about their Sub.

I mean, that stuff DOES NOT happen on this forum at all.

It's distasteful and makes me reconsider the brand.

people "over there" are new money, whereas here people are ...

... old school ... 😁

BlackTalon · Apr 2, 2016

Longbow
"nice Daytona!", ......" no, its a Rolex"..

That's priceless!

Definitely parallels the Porsche world. I was sternly corrected a couple years ago when I told someone I really liked his 964 -- apparantly "No, it is a NINE ELEVEN" When I 'splained to him the particular iteration was a 964, he said "Well it is a 911, and that is what matters because I have always wanted one"

dx009 · Apr 2, 2016

Why do you not prefer Rolex

Because I can't afford one! 🫨

Optimizer13 · Apr 2, 2016

cicindela
Missed this thread yesterday or I swear I would of killed it before it got started. Many took the high road in response and I am glad of that.
Not really type of thread we like here. Kind of a WUS type thread. To the OP, thanks for nothing. Please don't start a thread like this again. You couldn't have asked why the watch is liked? The title was rather trollish. You have earned future scrutiny.

I didn't try to elicit violent responses or anything, was just curious about this issue and specifically after a few threads about rolex vs omega, etc. Apologies if the title sounded trollish but that was my question about why some seem to "dislike with passion." But point taken and I should have worded it better! 👍

cicindela · Apr 2, 2016

Optimizer13
I didn't try to elicit violent responses or anything, was just curious about this issue and specifically after a few threads about rolex vs omega, etc. Apologies if the title sounded trollish but that was my question about why some seem to "dislike with passion." But point taken and I should have worded it better! 👍

No problem , I was perhaps a little harsh in my criticism, I realize reading your post that you had a different intent. Your good.

Riviera Paradise · Apr 2, 2016

BB-8 is surprisingly a "Crown" fan and wants to take this Polar 42 "exploring" around a few star systems. He beeped that the orange GMT hand rocks with a Rebel jump suit and that if anyone says his new watch friend looks like a toy watch with the big hands, he is going to personally ask Luke to shaft them with his lightsaber (no sexual pun intended)😀

Longbow · Apr 2, 2016

al128
people "over there" are new money, whereas here people are ...

... old school ... 😁

or just old ...at least that's what my eyes keep telling me.
@Riviera Paradise so, no Rolex Day-Date "best in class" watches for me until Rolex figure out how to do an oblong curved cyclops lens for the day window. I'm starting to think that all this no-date design purity stuff is an old git conspiracy to avoid having to admit to being blind.

MikiJ · Apr 2, 2016

sgtpry
Just as for any other brand, I like the vintage ones instead of the new ones. Like with Heuer, Breitling and Rolex.

So, I don't hate any brands...just prefer older styles on those brands.

I love vintage "dim" watches that is low profile and go unnoticed.
Most people who saw these watches will think it's just my grand father's -old-beaten up-out of date-watches that no one wants.

One of my vintage love is actually a Rolex Submariner 16800 from 1983.

I like this Vintage Rolex Submariner because it's hardly look like a Rolex, it just look like old beaten up watch.

How do you think?

Mickey obviously agrees. Although he's been foolin' with watches for over 5 decades this is the first Rolex he ever owned.
He never thought much of modern day Rolex, but his matte dial 1981 16800 suits him just fine.
Much to his surprise, he thinks as as good a daily wearer as he's ever worn.
However he's been having a hard time not putting on his new/old Straight Writting Speedy on in the morning.

dx009 · Apr 2, 2016

Oh so now we're bringing out what random children's toy we find in the house ?

🍿

MikiJ · Apr 2, 2016

dx009
Oh so now we're bringing out what random children's toy we find in the house ?

🍿

Random children's toy my a-s: That's my toy 😀

phodinkee · Apr 2, 2016

Thank you!

I usually only wear it on weekends, on weekdays I prefer vintage Heuer or Omega

Optimizer13
Super lovely watch you have sir!

phodinkee · Apr 2, 2016

Optimizer13
Haha you're still trying to annoy @sgtpry 😝

Hahaha, yeah, you have to see it from normal distance, then it will look like old broken watch

Longbow · Apr 2, 2016

kurtj29
As an engineer I really appreciate the way Rolex attempts to be a total vertical manufacturer of their watches. They attempt to do everything in house. I love that. I own an Explorer II Polar 216570 and love it. Mine says hi from the top of Haleakala this Wednesday morning. Waiting on a 6:13 sunrise. BTW - it's a tank, wore it snorkeling and playing in the surf, never worried about it.

One of the few Rolex watches that I would consider and the one that Omega doesn't quite have an answer to IMHO. In this watch you can see how clarity of design/purpose is the typical emergent property from a (good) highly vertically integrated organisation, the same is (mostly) true for Apple Computers.

As an engineer I recognise what vertical integration can deliver on a small scale, but there comes a point in system complexity (products with more than 200 parts) when you have to rely on other organisations that better master the key "ingredients". "Doing it all in-house" has its limits. The true measure of integration skill is when an organisation can marshal resources from multiple diverse origins (different countries, cultures, languages, maturity etc). I would hate to sit in a Boeing 777 with Boeing gas turbine engines, Boeing tires and Boeing avionics. The B777 is a great airplane because they beautifully orchestrated the integration of suppliers such as Rolls Royce, Michelin and General Electric to name but a few masters of key sub-systems. That Rolex feel the need to do everything in-house is more of a statement of weakness than strength.

Great engineering is at it's greatest when you can bring the best-of-the best together and the list of "the best" can be frighteningly long for an aircraft. Check out this high-level summary of all the stuff you will never be able to do fully in-house.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATA_100

Thankfully Rolex don't make aircraft.

Longbow · Apr 2, 2016

dx009
Oh so now we're bringing out what random children's toy we find in the house ?

🍿

Should we use random adult toys? No forget that idea, it will be censored out before the first reply.

WatchVaultNYC · Apr 2, 2016

sgtpry
Just as for any other brand, I like the vintage ones instead of the new ones. Like with Heuer, Breitling and Rolex.

So, I don't hate any brands...just prefer older styles on those brands.

I love vintage "dim" watches that is low profile and go unnoticed.
Most people who saw these watches will think it's just my grand father's -old-beaten up-out of date-watches that no one wants.

One of my vintage love is actually a Rolex Submariner 16800 from 1983.

I like this Vintage Rolex Submariner because it's hardly look like a Rolex, it just look like old beaten up watch.

How do you think?

Perfect, so perfect!

This is my 2nd attempt to get into Rolex. First one was a 14060, which I sold because it was "too Rolex". Now a year later I have both a 14060M and a 16610 which I both dislike and am selling. The applied white gold surround indices make the watch look too "precious" which is not my thing.

I think what I really want is something like what you have - painted indices and a ghosted bezel - a 1680/16800 or a 5513. I know I like it because I have an Omega Sword Hands 2254.50 with a ghosted bezel and I love it. Problem is that 1680/16800/5513 are a bit hard to find at a good price. So I have an incoming Tudor 79090 which gets me 90% there (at 20% of the price) to tide me over:

(pic from, the internet)

phodinkee · Apr 2, 2016

Thank you buddy

I agree with you, Rolex that is not too Rolex...
That is why vintage is the only way to go

Congrats on the new Tudor 79090, the best vintage submariner at the best price, very beautiful 😉

WatchVaultNYC
Perfect, so perfect!

This is my 2nd attempt to get into Rolex. First one was a 14060, which I sold because it was "too Rolex". Now a year later I have both a 14060M and a 16610 which I both dislike and am selling. The applied white gold surround indices make the watch look too "precious" which is not my thing.

I think what I really want is something like what you have - painted indices and a ghosted bezel - a 1680/16800 or a 5513. I know I like it because I have an Omega Sword Hands 2254.50 with a ghosted bezel and I love it. Problem is that 1680/16800/5513 are a bit hard to find at a good price. So I have an incoming Tudor 79090 which gets me 90% there (at 20% of the price) to tide me over:

(pic from, the internet)

Taddyangle · Apr 2, 2016

Because I 🤬 love Omega!

But damn, that Tudor is nice! Can I get that as a birth year watch, 1966?

Why do you not prefer Rolex?

Longbow

gostang9

Longbow

al128

BlackTalon

dx009

Optimizer13

cicindela

Riviera Paradise

Longbow

MikiJ

dx009

MikiJ

phodinkee

phodinkee

Longbow

Longbow

WatchVaultNYC

phodinkee

Taddyangle

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