Which Constellation reference is this watch?

Posts
124
Likes
104
Folks, can I ask another question?


Black dials on pie pan are apparently about 9%, or rare, added to this js that this watch is either 14k or 18k solid gold, then there is the arabic numerals. Arent each of these three rare in itself? And considering this watch combines all three, does it make it worth it price?

All this is assuming the dial is original - I am awaiting more pictures from the seller, but wanted to gather your thoughts.

Thanks in advance.
Did you receive any high resolution pics of the dial yet?
 
Posts
17
Likes
8
Folks,I have received some additional pics just now. For starters, its 14k not 18k. What is everyone’s take on the dial? And the rest, the case back appear to be decent? Or nay?

Thanks in advance folks,
Jomu

 
Posts
6,709
Likes
10,354
The dial looks good to me from those pics.
The case back is a little soft but all bits are still clearly there.
A 14k case is significantly different to an 18k in value.
The crystal is a modern replacement but looks like a genuine Omega crystal.
The crown doesn't appear to be an Omega crown (or is so worn as to have lost the Omega symbol) but the correct crowns are still available from Omega.

The hands look to have been relumed as they are minty while the indices lume is beige - other might comment on this.

The question still remains as to whether you like the case for the money and is offset by the black dial.
The bezel looks a little better in some of the new pics but is still very soft.
The lugs are really quite soft.
Have a look at this thread to compare this watch to 2852s with good cases - then decide if you still like it enough to spend £3,000 on it.
 
Posts
124
Likes
104
So the gold value is around 1625€ so around 1368 British pounds. So the asking price is almost 3 times what the intrinsic gold value is. So I would pass and keep on looking. Regardless of the dial being original or not. Which still is up to the forum experts to decide considering the new pics of it.
 
Posts
17
Likes
8
The dial looks good to me from those pics.
The case back is a little soft but all bits are still clearly there.
A 14k case is significantly different to an 18k in value.
The crystal is a modern replacement but looks like a genuine Omega crystal.
The crown doesn't appear to be an Omega crown (or is so worn as to have lost the Omega symbol) but the correct crowns are still available from Omega.

The hands look to have been relumed as they are minty while the indices lume is beige - other might comment on this.

The question still remains as to whether you like the case for the money and is offset by the black dial.
The bezel looks a little better in some of the new pics but is still very soft.
The lugs are really quite soft.
Have a look at this thread to compare this watch to 2852s with good cases - then decide if you still like it enough to spend £3,000 on it.
That was a really useful insight, thank you.
 
Posts
17
Likes
8
So the gold value is around 1625€ so around 1368 British pounds. So the asking price is almost 3 times what the intrinsic gold value is. So I would pass and keep on looking. Regardless of the dial being original or not. Which still is up to the forum experts to decide considering the new pics of it.
Thank you for your responses to the original thread and to date. I think so too, I am going to pass. Unless the price is to my liking for a 14ct ~ 2400 GBP.
 
Posts
10,734
Likes
16,710
I suspect this dial has been cleaned at some point since there is more crud around the text and logo than elsewhere but I can't see any tells suggesting a redial.

I'm in the other camp here. Yes the case is soft but it often is on 1950s solid gold watches. The price isn't silly for what it is, particularly if you can haggle him down a few hundred. Try finding another original black dial Connie, at any price really, they are indeed rare. Probably less than 1 in 20 black dials that are posted on here for opinions are legit. Usually by the new buyer who gets butt hurt when we tell them it isn't. This is the exception.
Edited:
 
Posts
17
Likes
8
I suspect this dial has been cleaned at some point since there is more crud around the text and logo than elsewhere but I can't see any tells suggesting a redial.

I'm in the other camp here. Yes the case is soft but it often is on 1950s solid gold watches. The price isn't silly for what it is, particularly if you can haggle him down a few hundred. Try finding another original black dial Connie, at any price really, they are indeed rare. Probably less than 1 in 20 black dials that are posted on here for opinions are legit. Usually by the new buyer who gets butt hurt when we tell them it isn't. This is the exception.
Thank you, had asked for a discounted price, lets see if the seller agrees.
 
Posts
17
Likes
8
Alright folks. Watch coming to me shortly, monies paid, can inspect and return if unsuitable, will share more pics I take when I get my hands on the watch.

Can I also thank you all once again, this is a super useful forum with very knowledgeable and helpful peeps.
 
Posts
3,527
Likes
7,732
Dial looks like original gilt dial to me.

When you get it look under high magnification with 10x loupe- if it is original gilt dial the text will not be painted on, rather it will be very sharp and showing absence of paint, as it would be the underlying dial metal color covered only by clear lacquer.
Good luck!
 
Posts
17
Likes
8
Folks, I have received the watch and here are the pics. The text does not appear to be painted on. Also viewed under a 10x loupe. The crown is defo a replacement.

 
Posts
17
Likes
8
Dial looks like original gilt dial to me.

When you get it look under high magnification with 10x loupe- if it is original gilt dial the text will not be painted on, rather it will be very sharp and showing absence of paint, as it would be the underlying dial metal color covered only by clear lacquer.
Good luck!
Thank you, just did and I think it looks okay. Attaching pics😀