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jomu_george
·Which Omega constellation is this watch? The black cross hair and the arabic markers are unusual. The markers pointed on one end and flat on the other is also not common?
Which Constellation reference is this watch?
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maumerstrubbi
·I found a similar one and that was a ref.2852 3SC
A watchmaker can open the caseback for you. Inside you will find the reference number.
The hands seem to be replacement ones or have been relumed. Considering the radium lumeplots on this are missing and would have developed a brownish color and not as green as on those hands.
The crown is atypical for this time and reference and a replacement crown as well.
The indices on yours look good and usual for this reference with that layout and style. The numerals look the same as well.
You can compare with this piece:
A watchmaker can open the caseback for you. Inside you will find the reference number.
The hands seem to be replacement ones or have been relumed. Considering the radium lumeplots on this are missing and would have developed a brownish color and not as green as on those hands.
The crown is atypical for this time and reference and a replacement crown as well.
The indices on yours look good and usual for this reference with that layout and style. The numerals look the same as well.
You can compare with this piece:
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers@maumerstrubbi
You made a comment and then seemingly deleted it.
To answer your query.
Cross hairs go from edge to edge of the dial on dome dials and on pie pans cross hairs stop at the pie pan edge.
You made a comment and then seemingly deleted it.
To answer your query.
Cross hairs go from edge to edge of the dial on dome dials and on pie pans cross hairs stop at the pie pan edge.
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maumerstrubbi
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Thank you for clearing this up and correcting me.
And @Peemacgee because I realised that I got it wrong in the comment I decided to rather delete the wrongly made comment since it’s not a meaningful contribution for the inquiry the OP makes in this thread… 🤗😉
@maumerstrubbi
You made a comment and then seemingly deleted it.
To answer your query.
Cross hairs go from edge to edge of the dial on dome dials and on pie pans cross hairs stop at the pie pan edge.
And @Peemacgee because I realised that I got it wrong in the comment I decided to rather delete the wrongly made comment since it’s not a meaningful contribution for the inquiry the OP makes in this thread… 🤗😉
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jomu_george
·I found a similar one and that was a ref.2852 3SC
A watchmaker can open the caseback for you. Inside you will find the reference number.
The hands seem to be replacement ones or have been relumed. Considering the radium lumeplots on this are missing and would have developed a brownish color and not as green as on those hands.
The crown is atypical for this time and reference and a replacement crown as well.
The indices on yours look good and usual for this reference with that layout and style. The numerals look the same as well.
You can compare with this piece:
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersThank you maumerstrubbi, I have asked the seller to do this for me. You are right, the crown is normally decagonal, however, some markets / models also received the round peripheral crown apparantly. Also asked if this is a 14k or an 18k case. What would you estimate the price on s conservative basis? Im a total amateur, apologies for the ignorance.
The crown should be the ‘fat’ decagonal crown - although there is some debate whether they may also have come with the Seamaster clover crown. (As they appear in adverts wearing cloverleaf crowns)
Obviously, the karat of the gold is very important but the case is very heavily polished and both the lugs and bezel have both lost their facets.
Black dials are notorious for being ‘tampered’ with - so much much better photos of the dial would be useful to assess it properly.
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jomu_george
·Firstly, regarding the crown - no they didn’t.
The crown should be the ‘fat’ decagonal crown - although there is some debate whether they may also have come with the Seamaster clover crown. (As they appear in adverts wearing cloverleaf crowns)
Obviously, the karat of the gold is very important but the case is very heavily polished and both the lugs and bezel have both lost their facets.
Black dials are notorious for being ‘tampered’ with - so much much better photos of the dial would be useful to assess it properly.
Firstly, regarding the crown - no they didn’t.
The crown should be the ‘fat’ decagonal crown - although there is some debate whether they may also have come with the Seamaster clover crown. (As they appear in adverts wearing cloverleaf crowns)
Obviously, the karat of the gold is very important but the case is very heavily polished and both the lugs and bezel have both lost their facets.
Black dials are notorious for being ‘tampered’ with - so much much better photos of the dial would be useful to assess it properly.
Firstly, regarding the crown - no they didn’t.
The crown should be the ‘fat’ decagonal crown - although there is some debate whether they may also have come with the Seamaster clover crown. (As they appear in adverts wearing cloverleaf crowns)
Obviously, the karat of the gold is very important but the case is very heavily polished and both the lugs and bezel have both lost their facets.
Black dials are notorious for being ‘tampered’ with - so much much better photos of the dial would be useful to assess it properly.
Thank you maumerstrubbi, I have asked the seller to do this for me. You are right, the crown is normally decagonal, however, some markets / models also received the round peripheral crown apparantly. Also asked if this is a 14k or an 18k case. What would you estimate the price on s conservative basis? Im a total amateur, apologies for the ignorance.
Which Omega constellation is this watch? The black cross hair and the arabic markers are unusual. The markers pointed on one end and flat on the other is also not common?
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maumerstrubbi
·Thank you maumerstrubbi, I have asked the seller to do this for me. You are right, the crown is normally decagonal, however, some markets / models also received the round peripheral crown apparantly. Also asked if this is a 14k or an 18k case. What would you estimate the price on s conservative basis? Im a total amateur, apologies for the ignorance.
What is the seller asking for it. That way someone else can may be answer if it is a reasonable price or not.
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jomu_george
·Thank you again, will send these as soon as I receive additional information.
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jomu_george
·The seller wants 3k, GBP. If its 18k solid gold, appear to be a decently priced in comparison with others on sale. Hard to find black dials on arabic numerals and solid gold. Atleast I have not seen another. Thanks
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Cartesian
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I would definitely second requesting a clearer photo of the dial. In the current one, some of the minute markers appear a bit off (e.g. minute 23) - though this could be just due to compression.
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maumerstrubbi
·Take a look at this thread. There you will may be find an answer / more insights for your questions.
Like stated above for assessment of the dial better pictures are needed.
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maumerstrubbi
·The amount of gold on this watch is around 25grams -> the asking price is roughly double the price of the gold amount on that watch. So I would say it’s priced way above what it’s worth.
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jomu_george
·The amount of gold on this watch is around 25grams -> the asking price is roughly double the price of the gold amount on that watch. So I would say it’s priced way above what it’s worth.
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jomu_george
·If its 14k gold, the price of gold per your link is 2000 pounds? If its 18k the price is 2650? I did not follow how the 25 grams of gold in the watch would only cost 1500 GBP.
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jomu_george
·Folks, can I ask another question?
Black dials on pie pan are apparently about 9%, or rare, added to this js that this watch is either 14k or 18k solid gold, then there is the arabic numerals. Arent each of these three rare in itself? And considering this watch combines all three, does it make it worth it price?
All this is assuming the dial is original - I am awaiting more pictures from the seller, but wanted to gather your thoughts.
Thanks in advance.
Black dials on pie pan are apparently about 9%, or rare, added to this js that this watch is either 14k or 18k solid gold, then there is the arabic numerals. Arent each of these three rare in itself? And considering this watch combines all three, does it make it worth it price?
All this is assuming the dial is original - I am awaiting more pictures from the seller, but wanted to gather your thoughts.
Thanks in advance.
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersFolks, can I ask another question?
Black dials on pie pan are apparently about 9%, or rare, added to this js that this watch is either 14k or 18k solid gold, then there is the arabic numerals. Arent each of these three rare in itself? And considering this watch combines all three, does it make it worth it price?
All this is assuming the dial is original - I am awaiting more pictures from the seller, but wanted to gather your thoughts.
Thanks in advance.
Solid gold watches are not rare but are desirable - however, they are currently more or less valued on their gold content, because gold is still so high.
Dial styles came in many forms - some are less common than others but are not by any means rare. The most desirable configuration is the arrow-head indices dial.
The value of a vintage Constellation is based primarily on two things - roughly equally.
Dial.
Case.
In the case of a black dial the percentage share is skewed towards the dial.
The dial on this watch might be a desirable black dial - but we would need much better images to assess the dial as the majority of black dials have been repainted - this would kill the dial value if that were the case.
The case on this watch is so heavily polished that I was loathe to suggest a reference - so as a collector's piece it has a low value.
However, it still has its intrinsic gold value.
How much the market values a watch is somewhat objective, how much you value the watch is very much a personal subjective choice.
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Dan S
·As noted already, the condition of the case is not appealing, but if you don't mind it, and the dial is original (a big "if"), then I don't think the asking price is crazy. Original black dials are hard to find. You will really need excellent high-resolution photos inspected by experts.
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