What would you consider a fair response?

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Hello everyone,

I’m looking for the opinion of fellow enthusiasts, mainly out of curiosity and to get some perspective on a situation I’m currently experiencing with Omega.

I own a Speedmaster Silver Snoopy Award, purchased new from an Omega boutique about a year ago. Unfortunately, I have experienced several issues with the watch since purchasing it.

When I first received the watch, I noticed an issue with some of the details of Snoopy on the dial. The watch was therefore sent back to Omega for service, and the dial was eventually replaced.

Following that, the watch had to go back to the service centre a second time, this time because the Earth animation on the caseback was completely misaligned.

However, there was another incident after that which raises much more questions for me.

I wanted to have the steel bracelet fitted directly at an Omega boutique. During the bracelet adjustment, the watch was noticeably scratched by the salesperson.

The watch was then sent back to Omega so that the scratches could be removed and the case refinished.

The work was done properly and, visually, the watch looks fine. However, I can't help feeling that I now have a watch that has been “worked on”, rather than the untouched new watch I originally purchased. Even though the scratch was properly removed, the case had to be refinished, which inevitably means that some material was removed. This is something that genuinely bothers me, particularly on a watch that was purchased new and where all of these issues have, unfortunately, resulted from Omega's own interventions or handling rather than from anything I have done.

Omega obviously corrected the problem, and I have no criticism regarding the quality of the work that was carried out. However, I had the feeling that because the scratches had been removed, the incident was simply considered resolved.

There was no offer to replace the case, replace the watch, or provide any particular goodwill gesture following the incident.

With some hindsight, I realise that this is probably the part of the whole experience that bothers me the most, even more than the original issue with the Snoopy dial.

I have actually just left the watch with Omega again for a complete inspection, after discussing the situation with an Omega manager who has personally taken over my case.

So my question is very simple:

If this happened to you with a nearly new watch, and the scratches had been caused directly by the boutique during an intervention, what would you reasonably expect from Omega?

a polish/refinishing sufficient, since the watch is now back to specification?
a goodwill gesture to be a normal and appropriate response?
a case replacement to be more appropriate given the circumstances?
or even a replacement of the entire watch, considering the level and value of the piece?

I want to make it clear that I am not particularly trying to “bash” Omega, nor am I looking for validation of my own point of view. I am genuinely curious to hear how other collectors would view this situation and what they would consider a fair response from the brand.

Thank you in advance for your opinions, even if they differ from my own.
 
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You paid good money for a nice watch that appears to have spent most of it’s time away from your wrist.

Must have been frustrating.

I am not sure why you left it once more for an inspection though. If it looks good and works as intended, enjoy it.

If I were in any type of customer care role, however, I would put myself in your shoes and arrange to get you an exclusive discount on your next purchase.

Or at least ask you what would help restore your brand loyalty.

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Only you can know how bothered you’ll be by what you know of the watch—if it’s something that’ll always nag you, definitely sell it. If getting some kind of compensation from Omega will genuinely help you get over it, then sure it could be worth a try.

One way to look at this: your watch had qc issues (not uncommon for a brand that produces many hundreds of thousands of watches a year) and Omega handled them for you. Good on Omega. And as weird as it is to say it, all of that is now a part of the unique history of your watch. Part of its story. Like the space program the Snoopy award celebrates, your relationship with this watch has been one of trial and error and ultimate triumph. You could see all of this as something to deepen your bond with the watch. Seriously.

As for compensation, assuming you’ll keep the watch, the smartest thing to ask for, financially, would probably be a free routine service when the time comes. That’s several hundred dollars. But a free strap or NATO might be more immediately satisfying. You could instead ask to be put at the head of the waitlist for another special piece (assuming you want one) but I’d be surprised if they’d go for that.
 
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Hello everyone,

I’m looking for the opinion of fellow enthusiasts, mainly out of curiosity and to get some perspective on a situation I’m currently experiencing with Omega.

I own a Speedmaster Silver Snoopy Award, purchased new from an Omega boutique about a year ago. Unfortunately, I have experienced several issues with the watch since purchasing it.

When I first received the watch, I noticed an issue with some of the details of Snoopy on the dial. The watch was therefore sent back to Omega for service, and the dial was eventually replaced.

Following that, the watch had to go back to the service centre a second time, this time because the Earth animation on the caseback was completely misaligned.

However, there was another incident after that which raises much more questions for me.

I wanted to have the steel bracelet fitted directly at an Omega boutique. During the bracelet adjustment, the watch was noticeably scratched by the salesperson.

The watch was then sent back to Omega so that the scratches could be removed and the case refinished.

The work was done properly and, visually, the watch looks fine. However, I can't help feeling that I now have a watch that has been “worked on”, rather than the untouched new watch I originally purchased. Even though the scratch was properly removed, the case had to be refinished, which inevitably means that some material was removed. This is something that genuinely bothers me, particularly on a watch that was purchased new and where all of these issues have, unfortunately, resulted from Omega's own interventions or handling rather than from anything I have done.

Omega obviously corrected the problem, and I have no criticism regarding the quality of the work that was carried out. However, I had the feeling that because the scratches had been removed, the incident was simply considered resolved.

There was no offer to replace the case, replace the watch, or provide any particular goodwill gesture following the incident.

With some hindsight, I realise that this is probably the part of the whole experience that bothers me the most, even more than the original issue with the Snoopy dial.

I have actually just left the watch with Omega again for a complete inspection, after discussing the situation with an Omega manager who has personally taken over my case.

So my question is very simple:

If this happened to you with a nearly new watch, and the scratches had been caused directly by the boutique during an intervention, what would you reasonably expect from Omega?

a polish/refinishing sufficient, since the watch is now back to specification?
a goodwill gesture to be a normal and appropriate response?
a case replacement to be more appropriate given the circumstances?
or even a replacement of the entire watch, considering the level and value of the piece?

I want to make it clear that I am not particularly trying to “bash” Omega, nor am I looking for validation of my own point of view. I am genuinely curious to hear how other collectors would view this situation and what they would consider a fair response from the brand.

Thank you in advance for your opinions, even if they differ from my own.
No cure for OCD!
 
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Thank you for your replies!
No cure for OCD!
You’re free to think it’s perfectly normal to have an almost brand-new watch scratched without any goodwill gesture from the seller.
 
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Regarding compensation. Perhaps have everyone involved in handling your watch, drawn and quartered!
 
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Regarding compensation. Perhaps have everyone involved in handling your watch, drawn and quartered!
I was asking about reasonable customer compensation, not requesting a sentencing recommendation. But thanks for your contribution.
 
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If this happened to you with a nearly new watch, and the scratches had been caused directly by the boutique during an intervention, what would you reasonably expect from Omega?
Omega did what they were obligated to do...

1 - fix the watch under it's warranty
2 - repaired the damage done by someone else (the boutique employee)

Although it's frustrating, I don't think Omega owes you anything at this stage. If anyone needs to do something, it would be the boutique.
 
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No cure for OCD!
OCD or just like things a certain way - I fall into the later & infact lots of cures if I really wanted to. OCD well that’s a whole different ball park.
 
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Ultimately you still have a fairly valuable watch were you sell it. I get that the issue is more about the experience than a financial problem, so it's a question of whether you feel the particular boutique needs to know that they didn't deliver on the customer care experience.

For my own watch buying interests I don't spend much time at branded boutiques or care much about the buying experience (as long as I'm getting a good deal 😉 , but I can see your point if, for example, I wanted to buy my wife a nice watch. The luxury buying experience is a component of the gift I want to give her to make her feel special and I would rely on a high end boutique to provide that.

Ultimately we have to grapple with he reality that this is just a mechanical device, consumer product, and sometimes issues arise in the manufactfuing process. In this case they took steps to resolve it as they should.

And a minor footnote, I personally wouldn't ask a boutique worker to change my strap or bracelt unless I thought they were capable. It's true some of them are temselves watch enthusiansts and could do the job, but others are just sales people trying to make the sale. For me it's like a car. I wouldn't let the sales person try to fix it, it would go to the service department if I wasn't comfortable doing it myself.
 
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Do yourself a favor and don’t collect vintage watches.
Or maybe do try collecting vintage. I think it helped me get over my sense of every watch having to be a precious artifact that has to be handled with kid gloves. I enjoy them way more when they're not some holy object behind glass.
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About a week after I bought my first Speedmaster (an 1861 Hesalite) from an AD during a business trip abroad, I found out there was a white hair near the 4 o'clock hour marker. I gotta say I really didn't spot it in the store due to the close color (both marker and hair were white) as well as poor lighting. Naturally I was frustrated and took it to the service center and when the watch was back from service, I kinda felt the same way OP does (though my problem with the watch was much smaller): a brand new watch that has to be opened within a week of purchase. It's not really the watch itself anymore but rather the experience.

My initial thought was to sell the watch, but quickly my second thought became: since the watch is already “damaged”, I might as well use the heck out of it, and I did. I wore the watch to every occasion even during sports, and those thorough wearing experiences made me appreciate and fall in love with Speedmaster. That original Speedy was given to a dear friend and I'm now a happy owner of three Speedies. I still pretty much wear my current Speedies in the same manner (except for the 321), knowing my Speedies can handle anything and this will bond me with the watches more.
 
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I understand the desire to want a new watch to be perfect. It’s not irrational. But it is unrealistic: I guarantee you Omega has never produced a perfect watch. (Neither has Patek, for that matter.) It all just comes down to where on the continuum between barely to deeply imperfect your watch falls, and what your personal tolerance for imperfection is.

By having the watch operated on, you’re presumably trying to move it in one direction on that continuum but risk moving it the other way instead. …I’d suggest that the thing that needs to move sometimes is, you know, you.
 
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Thank you everyone for taking the time to reply. I appreciate the different perspectives.

Just one clarification, as I realise my original post may not have been clear enough about the damage.

This wasn’t a typical small scratch around the lugs from changing a bracelet. It was a deep scratch across the visible upper surface of one of the lugs, on the front side of the watch, which required the case to be refinished by Omega.

This is actually what bothers me most. It looks fine now, but the fact that a nearly new case had to be refinished because of damage caused while the watch was being handled by the boutique is what I find frustrating.

Anyway, thanks again for all the replies and different points of view!
 
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I get your frustration - it's a new luxury watch purchased from the buotique and that experience has been tarnished.

The polishing in particular would bother me, especially if the case geometry has been altered. That has a material impact on the watch's value.

Perhaps go the boutique and respectfully let them know that you are unsatisfied and what would make it right. They may not agree, but at least you tried.
 
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The OP's beef lies with the boutique who badly bungled a strap/bracelet change. Omega did right by replacing the dial (most makers would have told the OP to 'go pound sand'), not sure how the earth disc was badly misaligned but that was an easy fix. Nothing is perfect from a factory. Personally, I don't trust boutique people to change straps for me, they won't take as much care as me and it's not that difficult to change a strap. Anyway, what compensation, or response, are you looking for? It will have to come from the boutique, not Omega corporate. Decide what would be right for you and ask the boutique for the compensation. The worst they can say is no.
 
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I have actually just left the watch with Omega again for a complete inspection, after discussing the situation with an Omega manager who has personally taken over my case.
I'm confused if the issues with the watch were resolved what's the purpose of a "complete inspection" by the Boutique?