What the bloody heck caused that!

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Kik_Kat_Kish

·Mar 16, 2022

Just perusing the old ebay listings during my lunch break and had a gander at a beefy lug Seamaster (I think it may be a 2576 reference). But was shocked to see the state of the bumper movement inside. What's everyones' thoughts on what could have caused that damage?

The watch is listed below:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/-/313909719083

 

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Tony C.

·Mar 16, 2022·Ωf Jury member

I think that the damage is superficial, i.e. not scratches. So, some type of liquid was spilled.

 

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TheGreekPhysique

·Mar 16, 2022

If I had to guess I would say someone tried to open the case back with a lawn mower.

 

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JwRosenthal

·Mar 16, 2022

That looks like part of the disintegrated back gasket got into the case (like someone took the back off and a large chunk of it got in when they put it back on) and the rotor lashed the gooey rubber all over the place.

 

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Skipper_S

·Mar 16, 2022

Α watchmaker just used his hammer while arguing with his wife 😀

 

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Kik_Kat_Kish

·Mar 16, 2022

Tony C.

I think that the damage is superficial, i.e. not scratches. So, some type of liquid was spilled.

Now you've said that I'm thinking it may also be the reason they haven't photographed the inside of the caseback.

 

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Archer

·Mar 16, 2022·Omega Qualified Watchmaker

JwRosenthal

That looks like part of the disintegrated back gasket got into the case (like someone took the back off and a large chunk of it got in when they put it back on) and the rotor lashed the gooey rubber all over the place.

Spot on - that black gasket goop.

 

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JwRosenthal

·Mar 16, 2022

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Spot on - that black gasket goop.

I’ve seen this on turntables that sat for years and someone turns it on and it starts flinging that shit all over the place. It would take me hours to clean that shit up

 

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Archer

·Mar 16, 2022·Omega Qualified Watchmaker

JwRosenthal

I’ve seen this on turntables that sat for years and someone turns it on and it starts flinging that shit all over the place. It would take me hours to clean that shit up

It's a real pain to clean up - I've found that 99% alcohol is a great solvent for this stuff.

 

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cristos71

·Mar 16, 2022

Wow, crazy rare spiderweb movement! 😁

 

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JwRosenthal

·Mar 16, 2022

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It's a real pain to clean up - I've found that 99% alcohol is a great solvent for this stuff.

Yup. I found my chemical mainstay was 99% iso, Naptha, denatured alcohol (denatured was better in bronze bearing clean out as iso can damage them). Nothing I couldn’t clean with those….but always test first as each reacts differently to different materials.

I also found that when trying to clean oil
impregnated bearings, use no solvents at all, but rather immerse them in fresh oil and put them in the oven- the old green oils leach out as it absorbed fresh oil.

I think people go at things too quickly with the wrong tools or processes and don’t do their research. All of these mechanical devices (turntable or watches) require specific lubricants and processes that must be followed or you will damage it.

Edited: Mar 16, 2022

 

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Hilts

·Mar 16, 2022

Tony C.

I think that the damage is superficial, i.e. not scratches. So, some type of liquid was spilled.

Just what I was thinking.

Possibly jammed caseback - heated to release, opened too early and then melted stringy gasket webbing itself over the movement?

 

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Dan S

·Mar 16, 2022

 

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JwRosenthal

·Mar 16, 2022

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Ok, @DaveK had Picasso’s watch, and now we have found Jackson Pollack’s! Someone get this to Dinky for the $1m sale!

 

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LesXL

·Mar 17, 2022

It's called Uniqueness... Probably owned by the seller of this watch I saw on a French website with the following sale pitch
Original text:
"L'originalité de cette montre réside dans son cadran, totalement éparpillé façon puzzle. Il a été stabilisé à la résine et reste très lisible; Cela fait de cette montre un objet absolument unique.
Un magnifique cadeau de Noël pour une demoiselle branchée"
Translation:
"The originality of this watch lies in its dial, totally scattered like a puzzle. It has been stabilized with resin and remains very readable; This makes this watch absolutely unique. A wonderful Christmas gift for a trendy lady"