What Speedy can it be?

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SledK9

·Aug 5, 2021

I recently acquired what the seller thought was a Speedmaster "Reduced", 40mm case. I purchased it with the thought in my mind: "Ummm, this is a Speedmaster Pro!". "Speedmaster Pro" on the dial, sub-dials recessed inside the perimeter of the indices, crown and pushers in line, screw-in caseback with NASA inscriptions, Speedmaster Professional on the clasp (no release buttons). Any thoughts on lineage appreciated.
This is my first rodeo with Speedy's...

 

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richiv

·Aug 5, 2021

Can you post some pictures?

 

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Donn Chambers

·Aug 5, 2021

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Can you post some pictures?

Yeah, we really can’t help you without pictures. But it sounds like the seller was clueless and you may have scored a better watch. Or you got a fake. Pictures will help us tell.

 

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vbrad26

·Aug 5, 2021

In for pics...

 

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SledK9

·Aug 5, 2021

Pix up of the watch

 

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arno

·Aug 5, 2021

Not an expert (by far) but i'm guessing this is a 3570.50.00
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-speedmaster-moonwatch-chronograph-42-mm-35705000

But i could see the engraved hippocampus in on the glass by somming in the pciture

 

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Cayohuesovespa

·Aug 5, 2021

the case back looks suspect to me.
the font looks fat to me and a little sloppy. could be repainted letters, could be a bad photo. the S on "missions" looks like it has a serif, and should be sharper. also the hippocampus looks dull too. as in the bevels should be sharper. could just be worn down. i dunno.
the arrow on the bracelet looks funny too. looks like the lines dont touch --- >
although, i am not an expert either... just wary of great deals. could all be the photos. open the back and compare the movement to a know one.
but if its genuine, and you paid speedy reduced price for a pro, you have done well.
does he have any more for sale?
lol
good luck

 

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SledK9

·Aug 5, 2021

I think that the watch has been lightly polished at some point. Most of the ring around the hippo is sharply defined, with the "master" sideslightly less so; as if the wheel lingered too long in one spot. I haven't worked up the nerve to crack it open yet. Bracelet is what stumped me. Both my old and new Seamaster Pros have release buttons on the clasp. I wondered whether this was a "women's size" Speedy and bracelet combo. The price was very good for a "reduced", so I'm happy either way it turns out.

 

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befobe

·Aug 5, 2021

What's the movement inside?... That could be an interesting clue..

 

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SledK9

·Aug 5, 2021

Arno: Thanks for the hint of ref number. I found one from Germany on Chrono24 with the identical clasp using the ref # you suggested. It may be a Euro vs US version difference for type of closure mechanism.

 

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SledK9

·Aug 5, 2021

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What's the movement inside?... That could be an interesting clue..

Haven't worked up the nerve to open it yet. I can build a motorcycle engine, but opening a watch makes me shake!

 

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befobe

·Aug 5, 2021

Oh I see... You're right, but you know, it is not a skill question, only a tool one.. you just need the right one... I use a silicon ball, it works perfectly.... 😁

 

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arno

·Aug 5, 2021

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Arno: Thanks for the hint of ref number. I found one from Germany on Chrono24 with the identical clasp using the ref # you suggested. It may be a Euro vs US version difference for type of closure mechanism.

i know that there has been two versions of the clasp : first without pusher buttons, and later with some

 

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Lurk41

·Aug 5, 2021

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The price was very good for a "reduced", so I'm happy either way it turns out.

Depends... A fake Pro for the very good "reduced" price is still a fake...

For sure this is not a reduced. It is either a Pro (in this case you did extremely well!) or a fake Pro

 

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arno

·Aug 5, 2021

Fonts look like the real one. pic from Omega
Edit : mmh, yes maybe fatter / repainted…

 

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Cayohuesovespa

·Aug 5, 2021

the bracelet reference number is on the clasp. could be 1498/840, 1498/849 or 1998/840,849
the 1498 tapers to 16mm while the 1998 tapers to 18mm.
i have seen both clasps with and without pushers on the 1498

 

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SledK9

·Aug 5, 2021

I sucked it up and paid a visit to the AD from whom I have purchased "some items" in the past. Felt like a philandering husband when I showed him the watch and asked for his opinion. Opened it up and louped it. It seems that the watch is a Moonwatch 3570.50, with 1498.840 bracelet (Thanks for that tip Cayohuesovespa!).
I appreciate the info offered by all.
Oh, and I'm REALLY HAPPY with this watch.....

 

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arno

·Aug 5, 2021

Congrats. Lucky you.
I don’t know how much you paid for it, but buying a bargain from someone who doesn’t know what he is selling was so common at garage sales back in the days, but this is nowadays so rare.