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Hi all,

I have this watch that was my fathers. I don’t wear it and have no idea if it is real or otherwise. My dad had some money in the 60s/70s but lost it all so I don’t know. The band is obviously an add on (Ie: not Omega).
Can anyone tell me what it is please. I’m not selling it but will fix it up (it only works for a short time then stops) if it makes sense to do so.
Sorry in advance for the newbie question/s.
Cheers Trev
 
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Looks to be a omega constellation, model 2852, with arabic numerals from app 1959. The case and dial had a life but it's worth restoring it. The movement is in need of a service and you need to find a crown. Where are you located so members can give you a advice regarding a watchmaker.
 
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Oh wait. Maybe it's not a 2852 with the non applied omega.

Edit: maybe it's a 2782.

Anyway, a watchmaker can.open it. Inside the caseback you will find the modelnumber. On the movement you will find the caliber number and serial so you can date the watch. It could well be a bumper movement. Can you feel a tick when you turn the watch?

Other members will chime in. They are probably better in guessing...😁
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That's an interesting heirloom. Looks like the gold plate has worn off.
If mine, I would probably just clean & service it, rather than recondition. Your choice. Hopefgully you can get a correct crown.
To answer your question, it looks like a genuine top of the line Omega of its day, but extremely worn.
 
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michael22 michael22
That's an interesting heirloom. Looks like the gold plate has worn off.
If mine, I would probably just clean & service it, rather than recondition. Your choice. Hopefgully you can get a correct crown.
To answer your question, it looks like a genuine top of the line Omega of its day, but extremely worn.
Gold capped I think.
 
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Foo2rama Foo2rama
Gold capped I think.
Ok, really newbie question coming....

Plated vs capped??? Can you elaborate (or should I stop being lazy and google it myself (think I kinda answered my own question)). 😀

I’m in Perth, Western Australia, does anyone know or heard of who I should take it to??
 
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I was planning on writing "rolled gold" but gold plated came out. Sounds like both are wrong.
 
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T Trevski
Ok, really newbie question coming....

Plated vs capped??? Can you elaborate (or should I stop being lazy and google it myself (think I kinda answered my own question)). 😀

I’m in Perth, Western Australia, does anyone know or heard of who I should take it to??
Plated is a super thin applied layer a few atoms thick on the watch. Capped aka filled aka rolled is a sheet of gold molded to a steel case. Capped and filled does not wear away As easily and is thicker.

since plated is vacuum or electrically deposited it is over the whole case. Capped generally has one side or more with no gold.
 
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Foo2rama Foo2rama
Plated is a super thin applied layer a few atoms thick on the watch. Capped aka filled aka rolled is a sheet of gold molded to a steel case. Capped and filled does not wear away As easily and is thicker.

since plated is vacuum or electrically deposited it is over the whole case. Capped generally has one side or more with no gold.
How do you denote a gold bezel & lug tops in gold?
 
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I’m in Perth, Western Australia, does anyone know or heard of who I should take it to??
Lewis &co watchmakers in Perth.

Highly recommended by most Aussies on the forum
 
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STANDY STANDY
Lewis &co watchmakers in Perth.

Highly recommended by most Aussies on the forum
Thank you.
 
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How do you denote a gold bezel & lug tops in gold?
? I don’t understand the question.
 
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How do you denote a gold bezel & lug tops in gold?
Foo2rama Foo2rama
? I don’t understand the question.

Omega’s gold capped constellations are as you describe.
- solid gold bezel (14k IIRC) and gold capped lugs.
On a capped watch, the rear of the lug is steel and you can see the thick layer of applied gold along the edges.
The mid case in earlier models is sometimes steel.
The OP’s watch is slightly unusual as the gold appears to wrap around the ends of the lugs - it’s usually more defined than this but it is an early watch and I put this down to the rounded lug style.
(And it has a random hole in the back of one lug for some reason )
 
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It won't be easy finding the correct crown, in fact it may not be possible and you might have to put on an early Seamaster crown. You'll also have to live with the dial spotting as it won't clean up without removing the print. Luckily the spotting is even all over which helps the appearance. The scratches on the crystal may buff out. It is still a really nice watch and well worth getting serviced. I would wear that and I'm not easily pleased.

The case has been scraped a fair bit. If those scratches aren't too deep, personally I'd consider going against the usual "don't polish the case!" viewpoint and getting them buffed just enough to make them less glaring. People have different opinions on this so don't take mine without hearing others.
 
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Scratches in gold can be smoothed by a jeweller, leaving edges sharp.
 
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Foo2rama Foo2rama
? I don’t understand the question.
Peemacgee Peemacgee
Omega’s gold capped constellations are as you describe.
- solid gold bezel (14k IIRC) and gold capped lugs.
On a capped watch, the rear of the lug is steel and you can see the thick layer of applied gold along the edges.
The mid case in earlier models is sometimes steel.
The OP’s watch is slightly unusual as the gold appears to wrap around the ends of the lugs - it’s usually more defined than this but it is an early watch and I put this down to the rounded lug style.
(And it has a random hole in the back of one lug for some reason )
Sorry for slowness, tried to find this last night & bumped my head on the cupboard door.
Apart from the solid gold bezel, there is thick gold on the lug tops, but not the sides. Hard to photograph.
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