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WHAT is the actual value of a Pie-Pan Constellation?

myouss
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cristos71 cristos71
The thing is there are pie-pans and then there are pie-pans.

There is always the debate between lyre lugs and dog-leg lugs, but for me lyre lugs win hands down every time ( However I do own a dog-leg pie-pan, but find it a bit dainty by design). There are of course other, even later Constellation pie-pan dials such as the 1960's straight lug cases 168.010 for example, but these although attractive do not have the street cred of the earlier ref's and are therefore less valuable.

But still I'd say the best, most attractive and most valuable pie-pans are the classic lyre lug 2652/2852/2853 type references. The case are chunky, the movements are great and they ooze class on the wrist.

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Completely agree. I find the 168.005 dog-legs to be more appreciated in photos than in person. It's almost architectural in design, but in practice mine often sits unworn, with other watches seeming to suit the occasion far more often.

IMO it doesn't feel at home in a suit or in casual, just OK somewhere in-between.

I've recently seen Youtube watch enthusiasts showcasing their pie-pans, the spotlight is probably driving the price up.
 
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myouss myouss
Either its camera tricks or the dial text seems a bit funky?
Definitely think this the camera on this one.
 
noelekal
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Pie-Pan Constellations are my favorite Omegas of all. Any of 'em. Stainless steel, gold, gold capped, doesn't matter.

Here's my humble Constellation, same age as I am. Runs better than I do.
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amuscare87
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noelekal noelekal
Pie-Pan Constellations are my favorite Omegas of all. Any of 'em. Stainless steel, gold, gold capped, doesn't matter.

Here's my humble Constellation, same age as I am. Runs better than I do.

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Love the arrowhead markers. That’s on the top of my list to acquire. That and a railtrack. There’s currently a railtrack that craftandtailored has available but the price is ridiculous
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Rasputin
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dsio dsio
I wasn't suggesting that you were, I'm talking about sellers in more general terms, I know you were just posting a couple of watches you like
My point being is much (not all) of the current vintage pie pan popularity esp that of the dog legged one is being driven by instagram et al hype rather than those who care/know how the constellation line actually came to be. Give it enough time and it’ll be on to the next viral model.
 
Hal10000
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myouss myouss
Either its camera tricks or the dial text seems a bit funky?
It's the iPhone computational photography. It does wonders for text on watch dials.

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masteroftime masteroftime
My humble contributions to the pie pan love:
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That steel one is gorgeous... It might have just made my preference for a Gold-capped one waver 😀
 
masteroftime
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My two cents: the market fluctuates so much these days that it’s hard to say what is going on long term with the prices of these watches. Could just be situational.

First quarter last year was a bad time to sell a watch, imho. Things were going cheap or not selling, sellers were stressed, and I picked up quite a few pieces for the collection at great prices. Things picked up afterwards.

At the start of the pandemic, I remember there was a huge surge of interest in dog leg pie pans and I couldn’t find a decent one close to 1.5k. Later, things went back down.

Notably, Japan is a popular source for this model. Because of tariffs, US prices have adjusted based on less general availability and the increase in cost to acquire a good one from the Japanese market. That being said, excellent or rare variants always have strong value. Getting that value is sometimes a question of setting.

The eBay one you reference was actually worth a little more than a run of the mill late serial dog leg pie pan. The dial appears to be one of the onyx index variants (compared to black paint) which always carry a little bit of a premium.
 
Pahawi
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Another piepan fan here. Here's one of my black dials - a capped rose gold w/ arrowhead markers (second hand not correct, but I live with that 😀). Never seen another in this combo...
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pdxleaf
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Pahawi Pahawi
Another piepan fan here. Here's one of my black dials - a capped rose gold w/ arrowhead markers (second hand not correct, but I live with that 😀). Never seen another in this combo...
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NOW it's a thread!
 
amuscare87
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Pahawi Pahawi
Another piepan fan here. Here's one of my black dials - a capped rose gold w/ arrowhead markers (second hand not correct, but I live with that 😀). Never seen another in this combo...
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Never seen this combination before but all I can say is WOW
 
reggie_v
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Not the best photo in the world but tagging on the end of the thread with my four. Took a long time to find them in this condition. The search was worth it!

In response to the original question though, I’ve definitely noticed it get harder and harder to find good condition examples. I’d say they rarely come up these days as the full package, for example sharp case, pristine dial. One or the other is usually ruined or both. When they do come up in excellent condition, the price reflects that.

Best of luck to any new collectors out there! Be patient and save for the right example. Don’t buy a sub par example! You’ll regret it.

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reggie_v
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Pahawi Pahawi
Another piepan fan here. Here's one of my black dials - a capped rose gold w/ arrowhead markers (second hand not correct, but I live with that 😀). Never seen another in this combo...
RG Connie.webp

Not usually a fan of gold capped but for an example as nice as this I’d take it every day of the week! Very nice sir
 
Hal10000
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reggie_v reggie_v
Not the best photo in the world but tagging on the end of the thread with my four. Took a long time to find them in this condition. The search was worth it!

In response to the original question though, I’ve definitely noticed it get harder and harder to find good condition examples. I’d say they rarely come up these days as the full package, for example sharp case, pristine dial. One or the other is usually ruined or both. When they do come up in excellent condition, the price reflects that.

Best of luck to any new collectors out there! Be patient and save for the right example. Don’t buy a sub par example! You’ll regret it.

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Yowza. That's quite a variety 😍😍😍
 
amuscare87
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reggie_v reggie_v
Not the best photo in the world but tagging on the end of the thread with my four. Took a long time to find them in this condition. The search was worth it!

In response to the original question though, I’ve definitely noticed it get harder and harder to find good condition examples. I’d say they rarely come up these days as the full package, for example sharp case, pristine dial. One or the other is usually ruined or both. When they do come up in excellent condition, the price reflects that.

Best of luck to any new collectors out there! Be patient and save for the right example. Don’t buy a sub par example! You’ll regret it.

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Very nice collection indeed!
 
sheepdoll
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I finally got around to taking a fresh photograph of my SC 14902-61.

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The crown is loose. Unscrews when I turn it to set the hands.

This was one of the first watches I cleaned. I remember having trouble with the date set. Will be interesting to see how it looks after 30 years. I gave it to my dad. He never wore it. Probably becouse of the loose crown. I thought the stem was loose as well.

As noted I am pretty sure this was one of the watches I got in Hollywood. Pretty good for watch for 60 bucks.
 
dsio
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sheepdoll sheepdoll
I finally got around to taking a fresh photograph of my SC 14902-61.

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The crown is loose. Unscrews when I turn it to set the hands.

This was one of the first watches I cleaned. I remember having trouble with the date set. Will be interesting to see how it looks after 30 years. I gave it to my dad. He never wore it. Probably becouse of the loose crown. I thought the stem was loose as well.

As noted I am pretty sure this was one of the watches I got in Hollywood. Pretty good for watch for 60 bucks.
Nice, that's quite a clean example for gold-capped indeed! And for $60... that's pretty amazing lol
 
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