Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,

as a newbie, please help me with your thoughts, is it a real one or not?
It's a 14K, cal 505, case number 121215.
And please suggest a normal price for it, I want to buy it.

Thanks in advance,

Gabor

 

Sorry, I try to attach the pictures in a different way:

 

First, it's not a pie-pan.

Yes, it's real.

Case is in nice condition and I actually like the patinated dial.

Check eBay sold listings for value.

 

Thanks for your reply! The seller said to me, it's piepan, I'm gonna see in my hands at next saturday.
My first try was, as You mentioned the ebay's sold listings, but I didn't find a 14K version with cal 505, and I couldn't find with this dial /3-6-9-12 numbers/, so that's why I'm not certain about that this version actually exits. Can You confirn that it exists?

 

Yes it exists and no it's not a pie-pan, regardless of what the seller says.

 

To me, it is a pie pan.

 

Funny, I also think it's not a pie-pan.

Regarding the OP and eBay prices. Don't worry about finding the exact same watch. Just get prices of similar pieces and adjust for small variations and for condition as well. Frankly, the biggest issue is figuring out how much to subtract for the damaged dial.

 

I have a seamaster with a dial like that minus the crosshairs. I don’t consider it a piepan. Still like the op’s watch

 

Is this going to be one of those threads?

 

I see what you're saying. The pie-pan refers to the domed shape, and doesn't require the facets/edges. That makes sense now that I think it through. I think my brain was just so accustomed to a narrower definition of the term.

 

The pie pan definition has been discussed here for so many times and people still have different opinions about it.
From what I see when I search Google, pie pan gave me this picture


So, to me, it does not need to have 12 sharp edges to be a pie pan dial.

 

OK, then I don't want to repeat this discussion too much, but that pan does have a sharp circular crease/edge and a flat bottom. The dial in the OP watch is just a smooth curved dome shape, I think. There is no sharp kink in the shape.

 

Do you want to start another one?

 

I think the problem is that the OP photo just doesn't show the sharp edge well enough, so I thought that the dial just had a smooth domed shape. I found this thread, which has better photos.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-geneve-pie-pan.26318

 

I thought this style dial was the only pie pan.

 

Read that thread I just posted, this is discussed in detail. The dial you posted is a pie-pan, but not the only kind. As long as the center is flat, and transitions sharply to a sloped outer section, it's a pie-pan. The division into sections (12 in this case) is not necessary.

If the flat central region just gradually curves downwards, without a sharp transition, that's not a pie-pan IMO. What makes things tricky is that without good photos, it's sometimes quite difficult to determine if there is a sharp break between inner and outer parts of the dial, and if the dial changes color at that point, it's especially hard to tell. You really need a good photo taken at the right angle.

 

This is what I thought of a piepan. If the OP model is I’m good with that. That is an amazing example you have

 

Sure, I'm fine with that. I'd just like to understand the principle, since the OVD is so incomplete. Are domed dials with rounded edges also pie-pans? I'm totally agnostic about it, just honestly trying to get the terminology right.